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Circumcision

Postby pinkeye » 20 Feb 2018, 00:22

So I'm a female, a western female, past my use by date. I recently saw a discussion on the teev.
Pros and cons of MALE CIRCUMCISM.

I have lived a fair while. When I was young and active? I never saw an uncircumcised male . I didn't even know about it. I'm talking decades ago.

Later in life I was forced to look at, in intimate close-up, the un-circumcised male appendage. Oh yuk. No this isn't happening.

Just let me say, uncircumcised males are really unattractive to me. Now and then.
Nowadays it seems circumcision is considered from polar opposite positions across our culture.. Some see it as mutilation for nothing but religious reasons, others see it as a reasonable action to prevent future harm and illness. Some see it as necessary for religious reasons.

I must say, as a woman, I much prefer the un-circumcised male, as a lover/partner.

What do you think? be you male or female.?L
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Re: Circumcision

Postby pinkeye » 20 Feb 2018, 03:44

pinkeye wrote:So I'm a female, a western female, past my use by date. I recently saw a discussion on the teev.
Pros and cons of MALE CIRCUMCISM.

I have lived a fair while. When I was young and active? I never saw an uncircumcised male . I didn't even know about it. I'm talking decades ago.

Nowadays it seems circumcision is considered from polar opposite positions across our culture.. Some see it as mutilation for nothing but religious reasons, others see it as a reasonable action to prevent future harm and illness. Some see it as necessary for religious reasons.

I must say, as a woman, I much prefer the un-circumcised male, as a lover/partner.

What do you think? be you male or female.?L




I have to apologise. My personal issues aren't important.

I have deleted same in this correction , and I still remain interested to know what the general public thinks about this issue, of the removal of tissue. :yak yak .
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Squire » 21 Feb 2018, 17:33

Are you a Mohel?

If so, do you swallow or spit?
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Aussie » 21 Feb 2018, 19:52

It's a generational thing. My Old Man (born 1920) was uncircumcised, I was, my Son is not.

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Re: Circumcision

Postby mothra » 21 Feb 2018, 20:01

I don't care on men either way.

Did not get my son circumcised.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Vulcan » 21 Feb 2018, 20:31

I tried to answer this before. But I got the ol' 403 response.

Anyway.
Circumcised males and un-circumcised both have their advantages and disadvantages.
I'm circumcised and when I would pass a Maternity Doctor (during my medical stint), I would narrow my eyes and hiss "Are you the one who circumcised me?" - getting an 'uncomfortable' response before they realised I was just mucking around.

Circumcised male penis is the popular choice in Porn flicks - due to the more 'cleaner' aspect of their being.
But their disadvantage is that they are more 'sensitive' to stimuli and are more prone to 'ejaculate' earlier than a un-circumcised.
Old men often get 'infections' and UTI's because they lose the ability to 'clean themselves'.
A lot of such men, in Aged Care facilities or at such that they can't care for themselves - get circumcised for hygiene reasons.
As 'boys' - its easy to be un-circumcised, because 'mummy' gives it a nice wash until the boy learns to do it himself.
So its the 'Chop' or the 'Cheese'.

Some cultures circumcise boys at a later age - like Aboriginals do at 12 years of age.
Saw many non-aboriginal guys from 12 to 25 come into Hospital for a circumcision ...usually for hygiene or some other reason. I never did delve too deep on such a subject when speaking to these guys. All that I could say is "You've got balls!" to boost their confidence and shy away any embarrassment/shame they might have.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby pinkeye » 21 Feb 2018, 22:55

pinkeye wrote:
pinkeye wrote:So I'm a female, a western female, past my use by date. I recently saw a discussion on the teev.
Pros and cons of MALE CIRCUMCISM.

I have lived a fair while. When I was young and active? I never saw an uncircumcised male . I didn't even know about it. I'm talking decades ago.

Nowadays it seems circumcision is considered from polar opposite positions across our culture.. Some see it as mutilation for nothing but religious reasons, others see it as a reasonable action to prevent future harm and illness. Some see it as necessary for religious reasons.

I must say, as a woman, I much prefer the un-circumcised male, as a lover/partner.

What do you think? be you male or female.?L




I have to apologise. My personal issues aren't important.



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I meant to say I much prefer the CIRCUMCISED male. EEK, Gawd I must have been pissed. There nothing uglier the a sheathed male penis. YUK.



I still remain interested to know what the general public thinks about this issue, of the removal of tissue. :yak yak .
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Vulcan » 22 Feb 2018, 19:56

Ok. I'll send you a piccie of mine.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Aussie » 22 Feb 2018, 20:17

Vulcan wrote:Ok. I'll send you a piccie of mine.


I suggest you not.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby pinkeye » 22 Feb 2018, 21:34

Aussie wrote:
Vulcan wrote:Ok. I'll send you a piccie of mine.


I suggest you not.


I suppose it is difficult for fellas to express themselves about this topic, and I can understand that. You're not used to having your body invaded .

I think, in general, circumcision is a good thing. :bgrin
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Re: Circumcision

Postby HBS Guy » 22 Feb 2018, 22:28

No dick pics.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby johnsmith » 22 Feb 2018, 23:35

pinkeye wrote:
Aussie wrote:
Vulcan wrote:Ok. I'll send you a piccie of mine.


I suggest you not.


I suppose it is difficult for fellas to express themselves about this topic, and I can understand that. You're not used to having your body invaded .

I think, in general, circumcision is a good thing. :bgrin


feel free to chop away at your body parts if you feel that way inclined
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Re: Circumcision

Postby pinkeye » 23 Feb 2018, 00:34

johnsmith wrote:
pinkeye wrote:
Aussie wrote:
Vulcan wrote:Ok. I'll send you a piccie of mine.


I suggest you not.


I suppose it is difficult for fellas to express themselves about this topic, and I can understand that. You're not used to having your body invaded .

I think, in general, circumcision is a good thing. :bgrin




feel free to chop away at your body parts if you feel that way inclined




I actually started this topic with good intent. Just curious really.


It seems a timely topic, as I understand where once it was a forgone conclusion ( :grn ) excuse the pun, now it is NOT done routinely.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby johnsmith » 23 Feb 2018, 07:47

pinkeye wrote:where once it was a forgone conclusion ( ) excuse the pun, now it is NOT done routinely.


and in 20 or 30 yrs time you'll be saying that once female genital mutilation was a forgone conclusion amongst muslim women, and now it's not done routinely


it's called progress
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Vulcan » 23 Feb 2018, 11:39

I can understand the reasons behind male circumcision - but there is no 'need' for female circumcision (mutilation) even for medical reasons as far as I know.
I do know that female circumcision was done/is done in cultures (mostly tribal, even religiously backed tribal) to prevent women from being promiscuous (that's the belief ...even though the males mostly initiate the promiscuity) and oppressing the female sex to 'enjoy' sex. That is, they are just kept as concubines and pleasure vessels (one sided). Really 'nasty' stuff in my opinion. Maybe 'rubber vaginas' should be passed out to these tribal men if they tend to think that way?

Anyway, no I won't post my 'knob' piccie. Lol
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Re: Circumcision

Postby pinkeye » 24 Feb 2018, 01:03

Vulcan wrote:I can understand the reasons behind male circumcision - but there is no 'need' for female circumcision (mutilation) even for medical reasons as far as I know.
I do know that female circumcision was done/is done in cultures (mostly tribal, even religiously backed tribal) to prevent women from being promiscuous (that's the belief ...even though the males mostly initiate the promiscuity) and oppressing the female sex to 'enjoy' sex. That is, they are just kept as concubines and pleasure vessels (one sided). Really 'nasty' stuff in my opinion. Maybe 'rubber vaginas' should be passed out to these tribal men if they tend to think that way?

Anyway, no I won't post my 'knob' piccie. Lol


Yes .. the barbarism continues against females in some cultures. Hard to believe.... the mutilation is not conducive to health for women. :sad
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Miranda » 24 Feb 2018, 12:16

pinkeye wrote:
Vulcan wrote:I can understand the reasons behind male circumcision - but there is no 'need' for female circumcision (mutilation) even for medical reasons as far as I know.
I do know that female circumcision was done/is done in cultures (mostly tribal, even religiously backed tribal) to prevent women from being promiscuous (that's the belief ...even though the males mostly initiate the promiscuity) and oppressing the female sex to 'enjoy' sex. That is, they are just kept as concubines and pleasure vessels (one sided). Really 'nasty' stuff in my opinion. Maybe 'rubber vaginas' should be passed out to these tribal men if they tend to think that way?

Anyway, no I won't post my 'knob' piccie. Lol


Yes .. the barbarism continues against females in some cultures. Hard to believe.... the mutilation is not conducive to health for women. :sad


Just as removing the foreskin on a male makes for a, subjectively, more attractive penis, so to does the removal of the labia minor, subjectively, makes the vulva more attractive.

Men with their foreskin in tacked and not in a nursing home seem to manage their hygiene without issue, so I fail to see what point Vulcan is trying to make.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby pinkeye » 24 Feb 2018, 23:29

Miranda wrote:
pinkeye wrote:
Vulcan wrote:I can understand the reasons behind male circumcision - but there is no 'need' for female circumcision (mutilation) even for medical reasons as far as I know.
I do know that female circumcision was done/is done in cultures (mostly tribal, even religiously backed tribal) to prevent women from being promiscuous (that's the belief ...even though the males mostly initiate the promiscuity) and oppressing the female sex to 'enjoy' sex. That is, they are just kept as concubines and pleasure vessels (one sided). Really 'nasty' stuff in my opinion. Maybe 'rubber vaginas' should be passed out to these tribal men if they tend to think that way?

Anyway, no I won't post my 'knob' piccie. Lol


Yes .. the barbarism continues against females in some cultures. Hard to believe.... the mutilation is not conducive to health for women. :sad


Just as removing the foreskin on a male makes for a, subjectively, more attractive penis, so to does the removal of the labia minor, subjectively, makes the vulva more attractive.

Men with their foreskin in tacked and not in a nursing home seem to manage their hygiene without issue, so I fail to see what point Vulcan is trying to make.


Clearly you do fail to see the point.
A more attractive vulva.? Really.?

Takes all sorts eh?

Not really comparable tho. The removal of a piece of superfluous and sometimes harmful piece of skin.. (in the modern world men wear pants. often tight. The humidity levels and potential for fungal infection is much greater now, than when men wore sarongs and loose trousers. Stands to reason.)...... cannot be considered an equal issue to female genital mutilation.

Male circumcision is primarily done for religious or health reasons.

The fact that a circumcised MALE is more attractive to me than an uncircumcised one is not relevant to the discussion. I apologise again for putting my own personal views as part of the case FOR.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Miranda » 25 Feb 2018, 11:01

Pinkeye, if you didn't want a subjective response to this issue, then you shouldn't have expressed your sexist preference. And I see that you are still justifying male circumcision for cultural reasons, which is exactly how female circumcision is justified. Do you understand that circumcision is genital mutilation?

You and Vulcan have suggested extreme consequences for citizens of affluent societies who fail to have their menfolk circumcised. That claim lacks evidence.

No child or infant should have suffer the sexual abuse that is genital mutilation. Only informed adults, with the capacity to consent to genital mutilation, have that right.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby johnsmith » 25 Feb 2018, 12:41

pinkeye wrote:A more attractive vulva.? Really.?


a more attractive dick? really?

funny how you don't apply the same standards to your opinion as you do others.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby johnsmith » 25 Feb 2018, 12:45

pinkeye wrote: The removal of a piece of superfluous and sometimes harmful piece of skin.. (in the modern world men wear pants. often tight. The humidity levels and potential for fungal infection is much greater now, than when men wore sarongs and loose trousers. Stands to reason.)...... cannot be considered an equal issue to female genital mutilation.


geez you come up with some claptrap sometimes

I don't know of any male that has ever had any fungal infection in that region, although I have heard of males to old to wash themselves properly having an issue with it. I would hazard a guess that men and women who are unable to wash properly have all sorts of problems anyway, not just with their dicks.

However, I have known several women for whom it is an issue, and they weren't old or incapacitated in any way .
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Vulcan » 25 Feb 2018, 15:07

You don't have to be a male in a Nursing Home to get 'infection' (Da Cheese Head!) under the foreskin which can lead to a UTI as well. Let alone 'amplify' any 'sexual disease' that may wish to grow with doing dirty deeds from partner to partner. Island hopping back in the Capt Cook days saw many a sailor develop nasty symptoms.

Anyway - the vanity of the penis/vagina is really last on the list when it comes to the reasons why.
Male Circumcision is justified, but I fail to see the reason for 'babies' to have it done when 'Mummy' takes care of it.
Nor for it to be an 'initiation rite of passage' in the teenage years to justify a feeling of man-hood - when they too should be aware enough to 'keep it clean'.
Being old and unable to care for it - can justify a circumcision, especially if that 'oldie' lives alone.
The only other 'reason' for it that comes via Religion or Tribal or 'culture' avenues is because of the prevention from 'dirty' or promiscuous activities that would otherwise be amplified or more pronounced in 'infection' possibility and the spread of bacteria.
Hence why Gay men should always wear a condom when putting their penus into an 'anus' to stop the bacteria forming 'puss'.

It's really much like the removal of the appendix - some need it, some don't. There is no 'black or white' here.

Should all women have their vagina's 'shaved' to appear more 'infantile' for men?
I know the USA 'culture' has a 'tradition' in this.
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Aussie » 25 Feb 2018, 15:38

Should all women have their vagina's 'shaved' to appear more 'infantile' for men?


Something tells me you are in for a right old bollocking over that one!
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Re: Circumcision

Postby johnsmith » 25 Feb 2018, 15:47

Aussie wrote:
Should all women have their vagina's 'shaved' to appear more 'infantile' for men?


Something tells me you are in for a right old bollocking over that one!


maybe mothra won't notice? :giggle :giggle :giggle
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Re: Circumcision

Postby Miranda » 25 Feb 2018, 19:40

johnsmith wrote:
Aussie wrote:
Should all women have their vagina's 'shaved' to appear more 'infantile' for men?


Something tells me you are in for a right old bollocking over that one!


maybe mothra won't notice? :giggle :giggle :giggle


Yes, but i noticed John Smith.

Vulcan, what has genital mutilation, performed by adults, on infants and children, got to do with shaved or waxed vulva? Linking the, unrelated two practices, makes you disturbingly perverted!
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