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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 27 Oct 2017, 17:37

A lovely day, well, several hours, spent at the Adelaide Antiques Fair.

Bought a nice lolly tin, join some other tins on the top shelf of the kitchen dresser in Tassie: want the kitchen to be a warm, welcoming place else I will end up living off sandwiches!

Bought some books, quite cheap.

Mulga Bill’s Bicycle Great niece is starting primary school next year, Mulga Bill might be a nice book to give her for her birthday in late May. Kipling’s “Just So Stories” and a copy of “The Wind in the Willows” with color plates. Going to keep that one, reckon my paperback version might find its way to a greatnephew.

Fat lava. Yeah! Got a wide flat sort of flask made by Carsten’s and an elegantly shaped and decorated/glazed vase by Scheurich. I tend to avoid pieces by Scheurich because they churned them out at a record fast rate but this piece is early (1950s) and is very nice.

The last and most expensive piece, a coffee can by Worcester in the Aesthetic Movement era, roughly 1860 to 1890 (Art Nouveau and Arts and Crafts sort of took over from Aesthetic Movement.) I like pieces from that time, need to visit Strathalbyn this weekend to pay for and pick up an Aesthetic Movement teapot (Just $25, they go for much more than that on Ebay!!! sshhhhh!!!)

Aesthetic Movement, Art for Arts sake. With a huge input of Japanese imports to UK and Europe etc. In 1850 US Commodore Perry sailed into Tokyo Bay and threatened to bombard it if the Japanese did not open up to Western culture. This flood of Japanese cultural items to the West saw a response, the Aesthetic Movement.

I might do a photo essay using the pieces I have of the aesthetic movement.

In the mid 1700s there were three English porcelain factories: Bow, Chelsea and Derby plus Worcester. I put Worcester in a separate category: using information from an earlier, unsuccessful porcelain factory Worcester incorporated some soapstone in their formula for (softpaste) porcelain, Derby/Chelsea/Bow didn’t. Consequently, you could put tea leaves in a Worcester teapot in 1751 and pour in boiling water and make tea. A chelsea/Bow/Derby teapot would <shatter> if you poured boiling water into it.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 31 Oct 2017, 04:34

My Carstens Tonnieshof vase:

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Look great in my conservatory with some dried water reeds or bullrushes in it!
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 31 Oct 2017, 04:44

Worcester Aesthetic Movement coffee can:

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Note: No border on cup or saucer, almost random placement of elements of decoration. Leaves—bamboo, also a fan partly seen on the cup.

This is the Scheurich made fat lava piece I bought last Friday:
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Quite restrained in color and glaze—some of the later Scheurich pieces look like ads for slasher films!
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 06 Nov 2017, 23:41

I bought a pot like this:

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but more purple. Chinese neighbor visited last night and I showed her my new teapots. The purple pot, well used, she said was the more original.

I have an old Chinese pipe, will take and upload a picture, guess what was smoked in the pipe :bgrin
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Nov 2017, 18:01

Nice drive/shopping trip today.

wow, even Mum was ready on time, we were on the road by 9.30am. That is EARLY when you are retired!!!

Nice breakfast just outside Mt Compass. Very nice toasted cheese, ham & tomato sandwich. On white bread :oops better specify something better next time!

Further down Victor Harbor Rd we travelled, then a left onto the scenic route: the lookout gives you a nice look aver Goolwa, the lower Murray River and the upper Coorong. No camera or binoculars, on we go!!!

Into Pt Elliot: FUCK!!! the good antique shop is shut {sob} so have a look at the Bargain Bin, bought a book. $5, on the life of Eric Sykes, UK comedian, gave Spike Milligan a lesson in plot construction for that seminal series: The Goon Show! Also, a fat volume of Mrs Beeton’s Manual of Household Management! A fucking steal at $20!

Also bought a nice old tin in Pt Elliot, car motif in the decoration. Just $15.

On to Strathalbyn! (Yes, a day of “onto’s” so fucking what dickhead?)

Hmmmmm!!! My fave (and smallest) shop there had two Victorian era copper jelly molds, $165 and $260 each! Put the cheapest one on layby! These things are normally like $400!!! There was another one there, $265, if that is still for sale next weekend I will fucking put that on layby too! cheap at the price, will look good hanging in my kitchen, copper brightly polished!

There is a nice copper jam pan too, bit pricy but a LOT of copper in it. (Pssst, if I don’t land that one I was told two more are in the container heading to that shop.) Be lovely, lots bright warm gleams of polished copper in my kitchen!

After having a look at a couple of other shops, went to the one I had a lovely, elegant, brass oil lamp on layby. Paid the layby off. Will take a pic of it tomorrow. Tall, elegant, vaseline glass shade. Will take and post a pic tomorrow.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 20 Nov 2017, 17:35

Another lovely day today.

Went first to McLaren Vale to have brunch at Bracegirdles. Hmmm Iced coffee the way it SHOULD be done and a decent, freshly made fruit salad. Onto Strathalbyn. Yes, yes, another “on to” day! Paid $50 off my copper jelly mold, and put the other copper jelly mold on layby too. TWO fucking Victorian–era copper jelly molds for the price of one, basically! Will get them properly cleaned then retinned: they will be nice furniture in my kitchen and I will use them to make adult jellies, some will be alcoholic, some not but all a lot of grades above Aeroplane jelly kidstuff!

There was a jam pan there which I lusted after but I know the proprietress has two more coming so that can wait. Be fucking groovy tho: lots of lovely warm gleaming copper in my Tassie kitchen: copper kettle, dipper, jelly molds, jam pan. Almost Dickensian. To complete it—a woodburning stove and oven. Dunno if I will go that far—but I might!

After antique hunting—hell it isn’t even afternoon yet (just as I planned) so we go—to the Langhorne Creek wine area. Potts Bleasdale, oh some nice wine was tasted, also some pinot grigio, can’t take to it. Can’t blame the winemakers and vignerons: the world is heating up and heat–resistant winegrapes have to replace more traditional varieties.

Bought two 2015 Verdelho, a Portuguese variety grown for a long time here. Very nice white wine grape. Also bought a 375ml sparkling shiraz. Will be back there Sat week—warehouse sale! Oh yeah!

After Langhorne creek, off to niece and grandniece and a very pleasant couple of hours!
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 22 Nov 2017, 14:55

Been looking, looking looking for Diana Nefertiti stomeware dinner plates. Bought 3 today, $10 each, not bad at all! Hope to get 7-8, a set of 6 plus spares. Bought a DN butter dish yesterday. Lovely slightly rustic dinner set to use in the conservatory.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 27 Nov 2017, 09:12

Yesterday was forecast to reach only 23°C. So I choofed off to the Barossa. First stop Tanunda antique shop. Found a large Diana Nefertiti biscuit barrel. Only $20! Ok, tiny chip in the rim under the lid but still bought it. Bargain!

Onto the great bookshop in Tanunda, nothing really took my fancy. Oh well, I have bought some great books there before and doubtless will again. To Saltram’s winery. Great lunch (pork belly) accompanied with a glass of Winemakers Selection Semillon. Bought two bottles of that, crisp, refined, delicious flavor and aroma!

On the way back via the Onkaparinga Valley road stopped in Woodside and had a look through the antique shop there. Lots of lovely objects but nothing for me.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby Francis » 04 Dec 2017, 17:24

Think I have found a solution to the ridiculous price of meat.
Kangaroo. Mustn't be overcooked but tastes pretty good .

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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 04 Dec 2017, 17:42

I eat a lot of native or feral meat. Delicious, camel esp makes me feel virtuous, eating a serious ecological pest! Same with feral goat. Don’t mind eating roo either.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 15 Dec 2017, 20:21

Had a nice trip to the south to make another payment on a laybuy.

Stopped in Mt Compass at the antique shop there. Bought a Victorian meat plate. Big plate, they did eat FAR too much meat back then. What I liked about it: Aesthetic Movement with a really nice strong central AM decoration. Unlike most AM pieces—has symmetrical decoration at the sides and the ends. But it is a nice white plate with blue decoration, hardly any crazing of the glaze and it is ironstone. No chips, no cracks, no restoration. What I thought was a chip was a production fault, a tiny bit on the edge did not get covered by the white glaze. No biggie, no biggie even if it was a chip: anything over 100 years old (Aesthetic Movement was 1860–1895) you can expect to have some sign of age! I did find, because I was looking for it, a cut in the glaze: some yobbo trying to cut a slightly tough bit of meat put a lot of force on his knife and damaged the glaze. So fucking what!

A nice white big plate, strong decorative element, look great in my Tassie kitchen. A snip at $80, didn’t even try to argue it down.

Nothing took my fancy in Pt Elliot (well, a nice old chocolate tin with Asiatic design with some damage but at $35 too fucking dear!) but in Strathalbyn in my second favorite antique shop I looked at a set of copper pans. Decided the copper was thin and had a sharp edge. However, he had two fantastic plates dating to the Victorian period made by Worcester. Two plates, similar but not exactly the same. Absolutely beautiful! Can see them hanging one below the other on the wall of my Tassie lounge. This is handpainted porcelain you understand! Beautiful pieces as well as being antiques. I don’t buy stuff just because it is antique (well apart from two really really old Indus Valley pieces and one Roman 3rd century pottery piece—historical!) I buy stuff that is beautiful or illustrates historical developments etc. If not educational-historical it has to be beautiful. Or really take my fancy, like some scrimshaw I bought, made out of whalebone.

Will be going back there the week after Christmas Day, hope the plates are still there!

In Mt Compass they have a groovy invalid chair, the 19thC equivalent of our wheelchairs, made largely out of cane. The owner of the chair wants $270. Tell him he’s dreaming—a LOT of work needs to be done on the cane which is damaged in several places—took some shots, will talk to someone who repairs cane and get a quote, use that to argue the price right down! Be bloody great tho—comfortable seat and nice and retro.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 22 Dec 2017, 18:32

I would LOVE to buy a couple nice pieces of Georgian Spode but when I type “Spode” in the search window in Ebay millions of Copeland Spode listings come up. Then I find a pre–Copeland piece that is nice and it is $500+, too much ATM. Much easier to find Georgian Worcester, just type in “Worcester First Period” (tho some items from way after that sneak in somehow :bgrin :bgrin ) But have quite a few pieces of Worcester including a couple pieces pre1760 (light passing through the porcelain acquires a green tint. Also some pieces from the Aesthetic Movement period, 1860-1890.

As to finding Chelsea or Bow porcelain from mid 1700s—fucking impossible! Have one piece of Chelsea (some minor damage and repairs, is fine in stuff this old) but not early and I have somewhere a bit of porcelain “similar to one in a Bow catalogue” which is the closest I have to Bow. Chelsea and Bow actually started making porcelain a year or two before Worcester BUT their porcelain pieces, unlike Worcester’s, could not stand boiling water poured on them. Kinda useless for teapots.

Derby eventually took over Chelsea and I think Bow just disappeared.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 22 Dec 2017, 18:52

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The Aesthetic Movement meat plate. The central decoration is pure AM but the decoration on the rim—symmetrical you will note, is very UNaesthetic Movement. It is ironstone, clean white color and no chips or cracks, tiny amount of crazing on the back. Look good on the wall of my Tassie home!

They DID used to eat a LOT of meat back in Victorian times, in well to do homes anyway, much more than was good for them. I have looked—glanced over more like—lots of meat plates in antique shops, none are of any value. Tiny bit of damage to the glaze from use.

Ironstone is stoneware made from clay to which some iron was added to strengthen the stoneware.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 29 Dec 2017, 19:38

Paid off a layby and bought a couple things:

Saw this model of a “woody” (car with fibreglass bits meant to resemble wood:

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Only $18, why not? Shit, must have 40 or 50 model cars by now, no idea why I buy them. JS and Aussie might have entered their second childhood but they ain’t getting my model cars to play with! :rofl

The two jelly molds I got out of layby today:

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The interior of the lower mold clearly needs retinning, the other one just needs cleaning. Victorian era molds, real copper and usually $450 each, got the two for $430! A few little dings—anything that old and obviously well used can be expected to show some signs of age

I saw this in a shop, only $50 so bought it. A bird made of brass as the handle of a tap? Weird!

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Can see this as the rainwater tap in my kitchen. Will have the tap refurbished and cleaned and polished.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Jan 2018, 12:46

Heh, having my morning cuppa (to get over my daily hangover according to dear old Agnes) out of a 200yo cup! Actually not a cup but a tea bowl—no handle. Feels nice :roll :bgrin

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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby MilesAway » 01 Jan 2018, 18:15

HBS Guy wrote:Heh, having my morning cuppa (to get over my daily hangover according to dear old Agnes) out of a 200yo cup! Actually not a cup but a tea bowl—no handle. Feels nice :roll :bgrin

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Why, are you turning Japanese ?

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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Jan 2018, 18:27

Ahahaha DRAH! Nope, these are antique cups I have collected.

The tea bowl you can see has a much better, cleaner construction and stronger decoration than the tea cup. The toffs preferred tea bowls, the hoi polloi preferred cups, with a handle. I think they are right, a handle makes sense. Just wanted to use them is all.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby thebattler » 02 Jan 2018, 10:23

I am trying my own pit fire kiln this year and bake some of mine just hand built things I have made like mugs and plates it looks easy enough

Water inside very very old crystal how did it get in there?

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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Jan 2018, 12:37

Going to make some ceramics eh? Interesting.
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Re: Fossicking thread

Postby HBS Guy » 07 Jan 2018, 18:59

Hmmmm bit of a trip today. Only bought one item, will incorporate that in my Tassie house: a bullseye window panel.

A sheet of glass with a bullseye in the centre. Dates to the late Georgian period, 1820-1830. The glass was poured, not rolled like late 19th century glass but outside the bullseye the glass does have some minor irregularities. You can read about bullseye glass here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_glass_(window)

Will post a picture tomorrow.

The glass panel with the bullseye in it was usually installed in smaller cottages, being the cheapest bit of glass. Looks great tho—and fits in with so much of the English porcelain I have collected, nearly all Georgian era, like the Worcester that makes up the biggest part of my english porcelain collection.

Dunno where to put it yet. Could hang it behind a window or make it part of the glass in my conservatory or install it in the kitchen door etc. will look great wherever I put it!

Photo tomorrow.
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