PhilPerth tries to inject some facts into the debate. But facts are not what is wanted there, feelings rule there.
Yes, Mann v Ball was still in the discovery stage. The judge took pity on Ball “an old, sick, irrelevant nobody” (Ball’s lawyers’ own words!) and terminated the case as judges can do when cases drag on too long. Terminated, not dismissed. No trial, no vindication for either party.
Mann’s data and computer code are here and have been since 2003:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/shared/research/MANNETAL98/One of the most pernicious lies about Mann is that he refuses to supply his data and code. The above link shows that that is false! A Mod should not allow lies to stand, over to you Booby!
Now to Valentina Zharkova, Professor of Mathematics at Northumbria University. She studied two cycles of the sun and thought she knew it all. She developed a simplistic model but when she tried to demonstrate it it did not hindcast known past GSMs. Her model is simplistic and worthless. There is a huge PubPeer thread (look up the “And then there’s Physics” blog run by Ken Rice—he devotes a few pages to the Zharkova saga and has a link to the Pubpeer thread.
Now to the ice age nonsense.
1. A GSM cools globally by 0.2°C tops (do some googling and you will find that I am, as always, right.)
2. AGW warms by 0.2°C per decade. Plenty of authoritative charts by NASA/NOAA/MetOffice/Japanese Met organisation etc.
So a GSM by itself cannot cause what is misleadingly termed a Little Ice Age.
So what did cause the LIA? This was pretty much a North America/Europe event, triggered by huge volcanic eruptions and maintained by increase in albedo, flow of cold meltwater from the Arctic entering the North Atlantic and stopping or slowing the Gulf Stream. Again, none of this would cool us now by enough to get anywhere near LIA conditions—and AGW will continue warming the globe a smidge under 0.2°C per decade.
There will not be another LIA again.
Not only that, there will likely not be a major ice age again. Milankovitch Cycles, perturbations in Earths orbit and inclination cause less insolation above 65°N so freezing the Arctic and causing major ice ages. However, Milankovitch Cycles are weak and only caused the ice ages when CO2 had dropped below 300ppm. It is currently 412ppm and climbing—no more regular major ice ages.
You watch Booby will be too gutless to post this. He has already lied about one of my posts in the last few hours.
Booby can read this then apologise for slandering me:
http://legendofpineridge.blogspot.com/2011/11/dr-michael-manns-data-is-available-on.htmlPhilPerth tries to inject some facts into the debate. But facts are not what is wanted there, feelings rule there.
Yes, Mann v Ball was still in the discovery stage. The judge took pity on Ball “an old, sick, irrelevant nobody” (Ball’s lawyers’ own words!) and terminated the case as judges can do when cases drag on too long. Terminated, not dismissed. No trial, no vindication for either party.
Mann’s data and computer code are here and have been since 2003:
[url]http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/shared/research/MANNETAL98/[/url]
One of the most pernicious lies about Mann is that he refuses to supply his data and code. The above link shows that that is false! A Mod should not allow lies to stand, over to you Booby!
Now to Valentina Zharkova, Professor of Mathematics at Northumbria University. She studied two cycles of the sun and thought she knew it all. She developed a simplistic model but when she tried to demonstrate it it did not hindcast known past GSMs. Her model is simplistic and worthless. There is a huge PubPeer thread (look up the “And then there’s Physics” blog run by Ken Rice—he devotes a few pages to the Zharkova saga and has a link to the Pubpeer thread.
Now to the ice age nonsense.
1. A GSM cools globally by 0.2°C tops (do some googling and you will find that I am, as always, right.)
2. AGW warms by 0.2°C per decade. Plenty of authoritative charts by NASA/NOAA/MetOffice/Japanese Met organisation etc.
So a GSM by itself cannot cause what is misleadingly termed a Little Ice Age.
So what did cause the LIA? This was pretty much a North America/Europe event, triggered by huge volcanic eruptions and maintained by increase in albedo, flow of cold meltwater from the Arctic entering the North Atlantic and stopping or slowing the Gulf Stream. Again, none of this would cool us now by enough to get anywhere near LIA conditions—and AGW will continue warming the globe a smidge under 0.2°C per decade.
There will not be another LIA again.
Not only that, there will likely not be a major ice age again. Milankovitch Cycles, perturbations in Earths orbit and inclination cause less insolation above 65°N so freezing the Arctic and causing major ice ages. However, Milankovitch Cycles are weak and only caused the ice ages when CO2 had dropped below 300ppm. It is currently 412ppm and climbing—no more regular major ice ages.
You watch Booby will be too gutless to post this. He has already lied about one of my posts in the last few hours.
Booby can read this then apologise for slandering me:
[url]http://legendofpineridge.blogspot.com/2011/11/dr-michael-manns-data-is-available-on.html[/url]
