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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 23 May 2019, 15:05

Bongalong wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:That is why an EV tho costing more to buy will cost a lot less over the economic life of the vehicle.

Exactly, the rest of the trick is just making it user friendly- not to mention publically accepted- and that involves developing standard technologies that people understand as reliable! These things take time and Al Gore knew that as a simply experienced public servant of high office

Even now the new EV's are user friendly, they have a inbuilt charger so all you need to do at the end of a day (or every few days if you don't drive much) is plug your car in and go to sleep for the night, never go to a gas station again. :purple

Yes, I agree.... standards have been developed BUT THEY DEVELOP MORE AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK MOBILE PHONES SO LONG TO BECOME GARGANTUAN. It's the same model... :beer

Yes, I agree.... standards have been developed BUT THEY DEVELOP MORE AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK MOBILE PHONES SO LONG TO BECOME GARGANTUAN. It's the same model... :beer


Yes, I agree.... standards have been developed BUT THEY DEVELOP MORE AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK MOBILE PHONES SO LONG TO BECOME GARGANTUAN. It's the same model... :beer





Yes, I agree.... standards have been developed BUT THEY DEVELOP MORE AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK MOBILE PHONES SO LONG TO BECOME GARGANTUAN. It's the same model... :beer

ot only took about 10 years for Mobil phones to go from the elite to everyone and about 20 years to replacing landlines. :purple













Yes, I agree.... standards have been developed BUT THEY DEVELOP MORE AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK MOBILE PHONES SO LONG TO BECOME GARGANTUAN. It's the same model... :beer

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Bongalong » 23 May 2019, 14:58

DonDeeHippy wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:That is why an EV tho costing more to buy will cost a lot less over the economic life of the vehicle.

Exactly, the rest of the trick is just making it user friendly- not to mention publically accepted- and that involves developing standard technologies that people understand as reliable! These things take time and Al Gore knew that as a simply experienced public servant of high office

Even now the new EV's are user friendly, they have a inbuilt charger so all you need to do at the end of a day (or every few days if you don't drive much) is plug your car in and go to sleep for the night, never go to a gas station again. :purple

Yes, I agree.... standards have been developed BUT THEY DEVELOP MORE AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK MOBILE PHONES SO LONG TO BECOME GARGANTUAN. It's the same model... :beer

Yes, I agree.... standards have been developed BUT THEY DEVELOP MORE AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK MOBILE PHONES SO LONG TO BECOME GARGANTUAN. It's the same model... :beer


Yes, I agree.... standards have been developed BUT THEY DEVELOP MORE AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK MOBILE PHONES SO LONG TO BECOME GARGANTUAN. It's the same model... :beer





Yes, I agree.... standards have been developed BUT THEY DEVELOP MORE AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK MOBILE PHONES SO LONG TO BECOME GARGANTUAN. It's the same model... :beer















Yes, I agree.... standards have been developed BUT THEY DEVELOP MORE AND THAT IS WHY IT TOOK MOBILE PHONES SO LONG TO BECOME GARGANTUAN. It's the same model... :beer

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 23 May 2019, 14:12

Bongalong wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:That is why an EV tho costing more to buy will cost a lot less over the economic life of the vehicle.

Exactly, the rest of the trick is just making it user friendly- not to mention publically accepted- and that involves developing standard technologies that people understand as reliable! These things take time and Al Gore knew that as a simply experienced public servant of high office

Even now the new EV's are user friendly, they have a inbuilt charger so all you need to do at the end of a day (or every few days if you don't drive much) is plug your car in and go to sleep for the night, never go to a gas station again. :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Bongalong » 23 May 2019, 14:04

HBS Guy wrote:That is why an EV tho costing more to buy will cost a lot less over the economic life of the vehicle.

Exactly, the rest of the trick is just making it user friendly- not to mention publically accepted- and that involves developing standard technologies that people understand as reliable! These things take time and Al Gore knew that as a simply experienced public servant of high office

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 23 May 2019, 13:32

That is why an EV tho costing more to buy will cost a lot less over the economic life of the vehicle.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Bongalong » 23 May 2019, 11:52

..interesting!

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Dax » 23 May 2019, 10:26

It has taken 3 days and 3 hrs to fully charge the kona from 95% depleted to fully charges on my solar system, only did it during the day when the sun was shining and my lifepo4 storage pack is only 700ah. Still ended up with 100% house capacity each night, think will have to put in another storage pack to cope with the EV's and then use it as house and workshop back up. If just charged from the 700ah house pack full time, reckon it would have taken 1 day and a couple of hours of full sun to charge and probably depleted the pack at night. May have to do the sums to really work it out, but will wait until done at least 3 charges to see the best way it works. But happy it can do it with little trouble to the house system.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Bongalong » 21 May 2019, 13:53

Dax wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
Dax wrote:Vtol is the way to go for flight, can't wait for them to become available and at what price, would love to have an electric plane with a parachute.

By the way, got a call from Hyundai Friday morning, they had a cancellation and asked if I'd accept an electric blue coloured Kona. Picked it up at lunch time and have spent the weekend driving it round Tas, just amazing thing to drive, but a bit small for me being used to land cruisers. However just loved it, longest drive was from Hobart to home, then from home to Devonport, which was 398klms and still had charge. Was fully charged by next morning from a 240v power point, then went from there to Strahan and next day Hobart and home. Went like a dream and discovered if you just cruise up to speed and then sit on a set speed, you get further. Now going to head to Aus and visit my grand son and his family in sth NSW coast, have organised a power point on the ferry to charge overnight and they didn't charge me.

From just 3 days of driving, electric is the only way to go and can't wait until get my Rivian and really hit the road free of charge. Will give the Kona to my daughter when the Rivian comes along as she loved it when took her for a spin.

Excellent feedback, thanx: what was the process of organising a charge point on the ferry?


Just rang them up and enquired about power to charge the car, they said no worries as they run truck fridges and can provide single or 3 phase. Will find out how it's set up when time to go in a few weeks, they said they have charged a few EVs and will be putting in more charge points as demand increases.

Excellent: this is the kind of free flow of information a marketplace needs to function in the least case!

Thanx again! I think we all thank you for getting ahead of the curve...

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 21 May 2019, 07:30


Took awhile but I finally refound this awesome aussie review of the Kona , very good and funny, a think id have to find a way to get rid of the safety beepers though if I owned one. :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 21 May 2019, 07:22

https://insideevs.com/news/350338/rivia ... australia/

Rivian has announced that both its R1T electric pickup truck and its R1S electric SUV will fittingly go on sale in the Outback, a perfect environment for these adventure vehicles.

It's not yet known if New Zealand will be included too, but Rivian chief engineer Brian Case is confident in saying that the brand will launch its vehicles in Australia. However, there's no word on exact timing right now.
Quoting Gase:

"Yes we will have an Australian launch. And I can't wait to come back to Australia and show this to all of those beautiful people."
Even more exciting is that Gase says both left- and right-hand drive versions of Rivians two vehicles are already in development and could in theory launch at the same time. :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Dax » 21 May 2019, 05:29

Bongalong wrote:
Dax wrote:Vtol is the way to go for flight, can't wait for them to become available and at what price, would love to have an electric plane with a parachute.

By the way, got a call from Hyundai Friday morning, they had a cancellation and asked if I'd accept an electric blue coloured Kona. Picked it up at lunch time and have spent the weekend driving it round Tas, just amazing thing to drive, but a bit small for me being used to land cruisers. However just loved it, longest drive was from Hobart to home, then from home to Devonport, which was 398klms and still had charge. Was fully charged by next morning from a 240v power point, then went from there to Strahan and next day Hobart and home. Went like a dream and discovered if you just cruise up to speed and then sit on a set speed, you get further. Now going to head to Aus and visit my grand son and his family in sth NSW coast, have organised a power point on the ferry to charge overnight and they didn't charge me.

From just 3 days of driving, electric is the only way to go and can't wait until get my Rivian and really hit the road free of charge. Will give the Kona to my daughter when the Rivian comes along as she loved it when took her for a spin.

Excellent feedback, thanx: what was the process of organising a charge point on the ferry?


Just rang them up and enquired about power to charge the car, they said no worries as they run truck fridges and can provide single or 3 phase. Will find out how it's set up when time to go in a few weeks, they said they have charged a few EVs and will be putting in more charge points as demand increases.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Bongalong » 20 May 2019, 15:31

Dax wrote:Vtol is the way to go for flight, can't wait for them to become available and at what price, would love to have an electric plane with a parachute.

By the way, got a call from Hyundai Friday morning, they had a cancellation and asked if I'd accept an electric blue coloured Kona. Picked it up at lunch time and have spent the weekend driving it round Tas, just amazing thing to drive, but a bit small for me being used to land cruisers. However just loved it, longest drive was from Hobart to home, then from home to Devonport, which was 398klms and still had charge. Was fully charged by next morning from a 240v power point, then went from there to Strahan and next day Hobart and home. Went like a dream and discovered if you just cruise up to speed and then sit on a set speed, you get further. Now going to head to Aus and visit my grand son and his family in sth NSW coast, have organised a power point on the ferry to charge overnight and they didn't charge me.

From just 3 days of driving, electric is the only way to go and can't wait until get my Rivian and really hit the road free of charge. Will give the Kona to my daughter when the Rivian comes along as she loved it when took her for a spin.

Excellent feedback, thanx: what was the process of organising a charge point on the ferry?

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 20 May 2019, 14:26

Sounds good, Dax. Love to hear how it charges from solar panels.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Dax » 20 May 2019, 10:50

Vtol is the way to go for flight, can't wait for them to become available and at what price, would love to have an electric plane with a parachute.

By the way, got a call from Hyundai Friday morning, they had a cancellation and asked if I'd accept an electric blue coloured Kona. Picked it up at lunch time and have spent the weekend driving it round Tas, just amazing thing to drive, but a bit small for me being used to land cruisers. However just loved it, longest drive was from Hobart to home, then from home to Devonport, which was 398klms and still had charge. Was fully charged by next morning from a 240v power point, then went from there to Strahan and next day Hobart and home. Went like a dream and discovered if you just cruise up to speed and then sit on a set speed, you get further. Now going to head to Aus and visit my grand son and his family in sth NSW coast, have organised a power point on the ferry to charge overnight and they didn't charge me.

From just 3 days of driving, electric is the only way to go and can't wait until get my Rivian and really hit the road free of charge. Will give the Kona to my daughter when the Rivian comes along as she loved it when took her for a spin.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 19 May 2019, 12:28

Yeah, and think rescue operations with the VTOL.

Things are happening, unfortunately not here.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 19 May 2019, 12:08

https://insideevs.com/news/350276/video ... en-flight/

Lilium Jet is all-electric and can go 300 km (186 miles) thanks to 36 electric motors rated at roughly 1.5 MW
Lilium, a Munich-based startup, revealed its all-new Lilium Jet, a five-seater, fully-electric aircraft that can take-off and land vertically (eVTOL), which on May 4, 2019 successfully completed its short maiden flight.

The presented full-scale, full-weight prototype is equipped with a total of 36 electric motors, which together are rated at 2,000 hp peak (almost 1.5 MW). According to the press release, the Lilium Jet will be able to go 300 km/h (186 mph) and fly 300 km (186 miles) on a single charge.

wow VTOL and good speed and good range....electric planes are just getting better and better...

that would be Caloundra to the gold coast (135km's one way) in less than a half a hour.....from anyone house..... :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by johnsmith » 15 May 2019, 17:06

DonDeeHippy wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:
Electric vans, utes and eventually cars will be assembled in Adelaide from next year, with start-up company ACE EV to sign an agreement with an Adelaide-based business today.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-14/ace-electric-vehicles-to-be-assembled-in-adelaide/11109132

Assembled. Better than nothing I suppose, some jobs.



not just assembly

Up to half of the parts will be made in South Australia, with the rest to be imported mostly from China.

sounds weird that they think they will be exporting 80% of them... I wonder where to ? and how it could be profitable... :purple


I assume they've done their homework

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 15 May 2019, 07:02

johnsmith wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:
Electric vans, utes and eventually cars will be assembled in Adelaide from next year, with start-up company ACE EV to sign an agreement with an Adelaide-based business today.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-14/ace-electric-vehicles-to-be-assembled-in-adelaide/11109132

Assembled. Better than nothing I suppose, some jobs.



not just assembly

Up to half of the parts will be made in South Australia, with the rest to be imported mostly from China.

sounds weird that they think they will be exporting 80% of them... I wonder where to ? and how it could be profitable... :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 15 May 2019, 06:57


yeah yeah so they say..... still no electric cars from them though..... They need to do a LOT of catch up..... :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by johnsmith » 14 May 2019, 19:29

HBS Guy wrote:
Electric vans, utes and eventually cars will be assembled in Adelaide from next year, with start-up company ACE EV to sign an agreement with an Adelaide-based business today.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-14/ace-electric-vehicles-to-be-assembled-in-adelaide/11109132

Assembled. Better than nothing I suppose, some jobs.



not just assembly

Up to half of the parts will be made in South Australia, with the rest to be imported mostly from China.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 14 May 2019, 16:16

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 14 May 2019, 15:26

Electric vans, utes and eventually cars will be assembled in Adelaide from next year, with start-up company ACE EV to sign an agreement with an Adelaide-based business today.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-14/ace-electric-vehicles-to-be-assembled-in-adelaide/11109132

Assembled. Better than nothing I suppose, some jobs.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Sprintcyclist » 01 May 2019, 19:16

yes, I think your Hyundai Kona will be very good.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Bongalong » 01 May 2019, 17:19

Yeh, 4 weeks at? Sounds cool... that's only a few sleeps after the election!

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Dax » 01 May 2019, 16:52

Bongalong wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
Dax wrote:Drove a Hyundai kona yesterday, have to admit it's better than the other ev's have driven and seems way better than the tesla for the price, which was quoted at $49990 drive away. Comes with an 8 year unlimited warranty and is so easy to drive, only problem is not much room for the dogs, 3 won't fit in the back but 2 will. So ordered one and will get it in 4 weeks, will be able to drive to Hobart and back without charging. Acceleration is amazing, so quiet smooth and hit 110kloms on the freeway in a flash, passing other cars is so fast they don't realise it until you are past them. The acceleration and regenerative braking is smoother than the tesla and didn't need to use the brakes except coming to a full stop. The bloke they sent with me almost freaked out when I decided to overtake and hit the accelerator to hard, unlike my cruisers, it almost threw him into the back seat, so to speak and took me by surprise. It has an economical driving condition, which means you drive it in such a way to get the longest distance and at 100klms, they say equates to about 425klms and more if it is mostly flat.

Awsome Dax

Amazing, yeh : but Tassie is far from flat so an update would also be a surefire talking point for many moons to come :bike :bike :bike :bike

* 8 years sounds like an excellent guarantee for something very new to market... I mean, how much fuel can you guarantee on budgeting in savings in 8 years? (...and then the thought becomes that things can only get better)


I'd say it would depend on how you drive as to how far you can go and from just that 30min drive, it will take time until you work out how to get the best results, big hills have an up and down side, so driven properly you may be able to regenerate close to 50% of the energy used up hill going down hill. It will certainly be a learning curve and looking forward to the challenge

As I drive my current vehicles on seed oils, my savings in fuel run into thousands a year and just for my cruiser, which does over 30000 klms at a conservative 7kpl that's over $4700 a year, On long runs I get 9kpl, but the averaged would be 7 as sometimes when I'm, pushing it, it only gets 6kpl.

You also get the first service for free with the Kona and according to the salesman, you should only need a service if something goes wrong and that's covered by warranty. he said they expect to do a service after 10000klma to make sure everything is ok and then according to the factory, no service is needed after that for at least another 6 years, No oil or filter changes, it has a cool gear system, just push a button for drive, reverse, park and neutral. No gears just smooth instant unbelievable power for a small car, can't wait to line up at lights with some hoon in their big v8 grunters waiting to beat everyone and leave them sitting. :rofl

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