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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Sprintcyclist » 18 Dec 2018, 15:59

DonDeeHippy wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:nissan are releasing an electric van.
you can hire electric motor homes in NZ

How would an electric motor home go ?
could have a motor on each wheel, so it is a 4WD when required.

seams the biggest problem with vans is the aerodynamics, they use about double the power than the sedans, and so far they put in fairly small batteries for some reason, Tesla put up to a 100kwh battery and the biggest van battery is about a 40 or 50 KWH one so only about 150km's of range, that's empty, as a campervan the range would be worse,
I guess if u r like me and only like to drive a hour or 2 while exploring they would be great...... :purple


yes, that was my thoughts.

Still, suppose we have a breakthrough in solar cells and they are now 60% efficient instead of 6% .......

solar panels on the market r about 15-17% there r ones on the horizon that should beat the 20% mark in a few years :)


I don't like the idea of lots of solar panels on a van or a campervan though , as everytime we camp we find shade and would be a bit useless for us, might get some charging driving along , I use a portable solar panel with lots of lead and follow the sun :)

:purple


Good points about camping in the shade while charging batteries.
Ah, someone told me solar panels were 6% efficient, maybe they said 16

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Bongalong » 18 Dec 2018, 15:32

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 15 Dec 2018, 08:52

https://insideevs.com/byd-6th-plug-in-car-sales-record/

30,000 sales per month is just around the corner
In November, BYD once again set a new monthly sales record of plug-in electric cars in China. In total, 28,793 were sold (about 2,800 more than in October), which is 123% more than a year ago. The pace of growth is astounding.
Plug-ins now represents 58% of total BYD car sales (compared to about 30% year ago), which brings the company closer to entirely getting rid of ICE models at some point in the future.
With 190,142 sales in China so far this year (up 105% year-over-year), BYD is on track to exceed the goal of 200,000 for 2018 by a huge margin.

They beat Tesla last year on sales (just a few thousand) this year they doubled sales but Tesla will be about 50,000 more again this year.
Now Tesla and BYD r way out in front in sales for the year, Nissan Renault alliance used to be up there, but r way behind now :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 15 Dec 2018, 07:11

Sprintcyclist wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:nissan are releasing an electric van.
you can hire electric motor homes in NZ

How would an electric motor home go ?
could have a motor on each wheel, so it is a 4WD when required.

seams the biggest problem with vans is the aerodynamics, they use about double the power than the sedans, and so far they put in fairly small batteries for some reason, Tesla put up to a 100kwh battery and the biggest van battery is about a 40 or 50 KWH one so only about 150km's of range, that's empty, as a campervan the range would be worse,
I guess if u r like me and only like to drive a hour or 2 while exploring they would be great...... :purple


yes, that was my thoughts.

Still, suppose we have a breakthrough in solar cells and they are now 60% efficient instead of 6% .......

solar panels on the market r about 15-17% there r ones on the horizon that should beat the 20% mark in a few years :)


I don't like the idea of lots of solar panels on a van or a campervan though , as everytime we camp we find shade and would be a bit useless for us, might get some charging driving along , I use a portable solar panel with lots of lead and follow the sun :)

:purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 14 Dec 2018, 20:51

Oh yes, generation and storage. Friends who lived on 300acres outside Bathurst had solar cells and batteries. They had a windmill they could not get out of the slipstream of trees so it spent a lot of time “hunting” but nevertheless the wind generator would recharge the batteries overnight. As they were a Km from the grid that was kind of important.

Even so when they needed a second fridge they bought a propane fridge and they cooked on a woodfired range which was also their hot water service.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Dax » 14 Dec 2018, 15:33

HBS Guy wrote:When I walk to Westfield Marion I walk past a house with like 30 solar panels on the roof. Saw the owner there once, commented on all the panels. Turns out they are early ones and not nearly as efficient as newer ones. He doesn’t pay much for electricity tho.

In Tassie I will have a windmill or two, only like $6-700 each, and not much sun in winter there I am thinking.


Your wind generators at that price, will only produce about 250w average, giving you about 15amp. Sure it will run whilst the wind is blowing, but we get lots of day in Tas with no wind in winter and lots of sun. The days just don't last that long so you need a combination of ways to charge, small wind, lots of solar is the go and lifepo4.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 14 Dec 2018, 15:13

When I walk to Westfield Marion I walk past a house with like 30 solar panels on the roof. Saw the owner there once, commented on all the panels. Turns out they are early ones and not nearly as efficient as newer ones. He doesn’t pay much for electricity tho.

In Tassie I will have a windmill or two, only like $6-700 each, and not much sun in winter there I am thinking.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Sprintcyclist » 14 Dec 2018, 08:22

DonDeeHippy wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:nissan are releasing an electric van.
you can hire electric motor homes in NZ

How would an electric motor home go ?
could have a motor on each wheel, so it is a 4WD when required.

seams the biggest problem with vans is the aerodynamics, they use about double the power than the sedans, and so far they put in fairly small batteries for some reason, Tesla put up to a 100kwh battery and the biggest van battery is about a 40 or 50 KWH one so only about 150km's of range, that's empty, as a campervan the range would be worse,
I guess if u r like me and only like to drive a hour or 2 while exploring they would be great...... :purple


yes, that was my thoughts.

Still, suppose we have a breakthrough in solar cells and they are now 60% efficient instead of 6% .......

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 14 Dec 2018, 05:59

https://insideevs.com/u-s-tesla-sales-i ... up-by-592/
Tesla sells more EVs in the U.S. than all other manufacturers combined
In November, Tesla sold in the U.S. approximately 24,600 electric cars (InsideEVs’ estimation), which is the second-best monthly result ever. Annual growth rate hit a remarkable 592%!
Our estimates stand at:
Model 3 – 18,650
Model X – 3,200
Model S – 2,750
Total: 24,600 (up 592%)

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 13 Dec 2018, 20:07

Sprintcyclist wrote:nissan are releasing an electric van.
you can hire electric motor homes in NZ

How would an electric motor home go ?
could have a motor on each wheel, so it is a 4WD when required.

seams the biggest problem with vans is the aerodynamics, they use about double the power than the sedans, and so far they put in fairly small batteries for some reason, Tesla put up to a 100kwh battery and the biggest van battery is about a 40 or 50 KWH one so only about 150km's of range, that's empty, as a campervan the range would be worse,
I guess if u r like me and only like to drive a hour or 2 while exploring they would be great...... :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 13 Dec 2018, 19:52

Me, guest posting on my iphone because logging on and entering my password is a pain on the iphone!

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Bongalong » 13 Dec 2018, 19:04

Monk wrote:I would LOVE to buy an EV but any $$$ has to go to the house right now.
Who's this monk character... :tweed ?????

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Bongalong » 13 Dec 2018, 19:02

johnsmith wrote:cheaper electric cars are going to come from china and india, not the USA.

That may be but they should go for a superior product and keep/GET some skin in the game.

The world turns and they don't want to lose too much contact with the new reality!

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Bongalong » 13 Dec 2018, 19:00

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by Sprintcyclist » 12 Dec 2018, 14:29

nissan are releasing an electric van.
you can hire electric motor homes in NZ

How would an electric motor home go ?
could have a motor on each wheel, so it is a 4WD when required.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 12 Dec 2018, 08:37

The Hyundai Ioniq may change all that. It enters the market at just under $45,000, giving it the title of the cheapest electric car available in the country.


https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/consumer/2018/12/11/australia-hyundai-ioniq-test/

The more the better!

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 14 Oct 2018, 16:11

This stuff and all the RE being rolled out gives me hope that extreme AGW can be largely avoided.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 10:47

Saw a Kona yesterday while I was at IKEA, looks awesome.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 14 Oct 2018, 10:35

johnsmith wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
johnsmith wrote:cheaper electric cars are going to come from china and india, not the USA.

yup Hyundai/Kia r making some really nice EV's as well , just cant get the batteries to make them :purple



Hyundai has really come good over the last few years. There cars used to be piles of crap, but now some of their newer models are nice.

Yeah my parents love Kia, they have bought 3 now...… Ive got a Kia van and its a awesome van. :purple
The Hyundai Kona EV looks like a real game changer , hopefully they will work out their manufacturing hell and start producing large numbers of them, they reacon they will have them here next year as well.
Also don't forget Nissan the EV is supposed to be re released next year as well :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 10:23

DonDeeHippy wrote:
johnsmith wrote:cheaper electric cars are going to come from china and india, not the USA.

yup Hyundai/Kia r making some really nice EV's as well , just cant get the batteries to make them :purple



Hyundai has really come good over the last few years. There cars used to be piles of crap, but now some of their newer models are nice.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 14 Oct 2018, 09:40

johnsmith wrote:cheaper electric cars are going to come from china and india, not the USA.

yup Hyundai/Kia r making some really nice EV's as well , just cant get the batteries to make them :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 14 Oct 2018, 09:39

https://insideevs.com/tesla-out-delivers-porsche-in-q3/
Porsche is now selling way fewer cars than Tesla.
Not only Jaguar, but Porsche too is not able to keep pace with Tesla anymore. According to industry analyst Matthias Schmidt (schmidtmatthias.de), Tesla sold 26% more cars than Porsche during the third quarter.
Q3’2018 results:
Tesla – 83,500
Porsche – 66,000
Jaguar – 41,900
Clearly, it’s the Tesla Model 3 effect (over 55,800) and we don’t see any circumstances that would allow the situation to reverse in the near future.
Now, it’s only a matter of time before Tesla will be ahead of Porsche YTD (probably not this year, but like sometime in 2019):
Nine months of 2018 results:
Porsche – 196,600
Tesla – 154,200
Jaguar – 136,000

Looks like Jag have thrown in the towel

https://insideevs.com/jaguar-considers-electric-only-next-decade/

The I-Pace was just the jumping off point.
Everyone wants to take on Tesla, it seems… or maybe certain companies just see the benefit of electric motors over internal combustion engines. Whatever the case, Jaguar might be the latest in a laundry list of brands to do so. Following the initial success of the I-Pace, the British marque could switch to a fully electric lineup in as little as 10 years.


Considering Porsche and Tesla have the highest profit margins of their cars, now that Tesla is outselling Porscha it give a bit of prospective on how much they r making now...
The last 2 months Tesla have the highest grossing car sold in the USA with the Tesla 3. Top that with the heighest profit margin and even though other companies r selling higher number than Tesla they wont be making anywhere near as much money.

Them not having made a profit yet because they have been expanding is paying off now....Last year they made 100,000 cars the last quarter they made 80,000 cars, thats 320,000 yearly production... In the next few days Tesla will be releasing how much they made in the last quarter, it will be very interesting.
ohh 6 years ago they made 2000 car that year.... 2000 to 320,000 in 6 years is a amazing feat. Their customers also love them with the highest approval rating of any car, last month the owners where volunteering to help get their cars out of the showrooms to help them out. :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 09:32

cheaper electric cars are going to come from china and india, not the USA.

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by DonDeeHippy » 14 Oct 2018, 09:19

https://insideevs.com/byd-4th-straight-plug-in-car-sales-record/
BYD will not let Tesla win without a fight.
BYD, the biggest manufacturer of plug-in electric cars in the years 2015, 2016 and 2017, is doing everything that’s possible to keep pace with Tesla and remain #1 for 2018.
In September, BYD set its fourth all-time record of plug-in car sales in a row, reaching 25,019 – over 4,000 above the record from August. Pace of growth increased to 121% year-over-year!
Plug-in share out of overall BYD volume stands at 56% (an all-time high).
The nine-month tally stands at 135,337. With three months to go, the target of 200,000 in 2018 is considered easy now.
At the moment, Tesla sold over 154,000 BEVs in 2018 and it’s probably already too late for BYD to compete for the title of the biggest plug-in car manufacturer in 2018.
Nissan Renault alliance will be third id say.
More production can only mean cheaper prices... one day we might see some cars being sold in Australia :) :purple

Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Post by HBS Guy » 11 Oct 2018, 11:01

Australia has hit a milestone in the drive towards an electric vehicle future with the installation and operation of the 50th publicly-available 50kW DC Fast Charging location in the Hunter Valley Gardens, Pokolbin. [My emphasis.]

The milestone installation comes during a Senate inquiry into the use and manufacture of electric vehicles in Australia, with a report expected in December this year from the Select Committee for Electric Vehicles.

Brisbane-founded company Tritium’s Veefil-RT 50kW DC Fast Chargers were installed by the NRMA at Pokolbin as part of its $10m electric vehicle fast charging network rollout.

The NRMA's electric vehicle network rollout is expected to be completed in 2019 and aims to install approximately 40 DC Fast Chargers across New South Wales and the ACT.


https://itwire.com/market/84845-milestone-electric-vehicle-charging-site-installation-for-australia.html

EVs making great strides!

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