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This stuff and all the RE being rolled out gives me hope that extreme AGW can be largely avoided.

Saw a Kona yesterday while I was at IKEA, looks awesome.

[quote="johnsmith"][quote="DonDeeHippy"][quote="johnsmith"]cheaper electric cars are going to come from china and india, not the USA.[/quote]
yup Hyundai/Kia r making some really nice EV's as well , just cant get the batteries to make them :purple[/quote]


Hyundai has really come good over the last few years. There cars used to be piles of crap, but now some of their newer models are nice.[/quote]
Yeah my parents love Kia, they have bought 3 now...… Ive got a Kia van and its a awesome van. :purple
The Hyundai Kona EV looks like a real game changer , hopefully they will work out their manufacturing hell and start producing large numbers of them, they reacon they will have them here next year as well.
Also don't forget Nissan the EV is supposed to be re released next year as well :purple

[quote="DonDeeHippy"][quote="johnsmith"]cheaper electric cars are going to come from china and india, not the USA.[/quote]
yup Hyundai/Kia r making some really nice EV's as well , just cant get the batteries to make them :purple[/quote]


Hyundai has really come good over the last few years. There cars used to be piles of crap, but now some of their newer models are nice.

[quote="johnsmith"]cheaper electric cars are going to come from china and india, not the USA.[/quote]
yup Hyundai/Kia r making some really nice EV's as well , just cant get the batteries to make them :purple

[url]https://insideevs.com/tesla-out-delivers-porsche-in-q3/[/url]
Porsche is now selling way fewer cars than Tesla.
Not only Jaguar, but Porsche too is not able to keep pace with Tesla anymore. According to industry analyst Matthias Schmidt (schmidtmatthias.de), Tesla sold 26% more cars than Porsche during the third quarter.
Q3’2018 results:
Tesla – 83,500
Porsche – 66,000
Jaguar – 41,900
Clearly, it’s the Tesla Model 3 effect (over 55,800) and we don’t see any circumstances that would allow the situation to reverse in the near future.
Now, it’s only a matter of time before Tesla will be ahead of Porsche YTD (probably not this year, but like sometime in 2019):
Nine months of 2018 results:
Porsche – 196,600
Tesla – 154,200
Jaguar – 136,000

Looks like Jag have thrown in the towel

[url]https://insideevs.com/jaguar-considers-electric-only-next-decade/[/url]

The I-Pace was just the jumping off point.
Everyone wants to take on Tesla, it seems… or maybe certain companies just see the benefit of electric motors over internal combustion engines. Whatever the case, Jaguar might be the latest in a laundry list of brands to do so. Following the initial success of the I-Pace, the British marque could switch to a fully electric lineup in as little as 10 years.


Considering Porsche and Tesla have the highest profit margins of their cars, now that Tesla is outselling Porscha it give a bit of prospective on how much they r making now...
The last 2 months Tesla have the highest grossing car sold in the USA with the Tesla 3. Top that with the heighest profit margin and even though other companies r selling higher number than Tesla they wont be making anywhere near as much money.

Them not having made a profit yet because they have been expanding is paying off now....Last year they made 100,000 cars the last quarter they made 80,000 cars, thats 320,000 yearly production... In the next few days Tesla will be releasing how much they made in the last quarter, it will be very interesting.
ohh 6 years ago they made 2000 car that year.... 2000 to 320,000 in 6 years is a amazing feat. Their customers also love them with the highest approval rating of any car, last month the owners where volunteering to help get their cars out of the showrooms to help them out. :purple

cheaper electric cars are going to come from china and india, not the USA.

[url]https://insideevs.com/byd-4th-straight-plug-in-car-sales-record/[/url]
BYD will not let Tesla win without a fight.
BYD, the biggest manufacturer of plug-in electric cars in the years 2015, 2016 and 2017, is doing everything that’s possible to keep pace with Tesla and remain #1 for 2018.
In September, BYD set its fourth all-time record of plug-in car sales in a row, reaching 25,019 – over 4,000 above the record from August. Pace of growth increased to 121% year-over-year!
Plug-in share out of overall BYD volume stands at 56% (an all-time high).
The nine-month tally stands at 135,337. With three months to go, the target of 200,000 in 2018 is considered easy now.
At the moment, Tesla sold over 154,000 BEVs in 2018 and it’s probably already too late for BYD to compete for the title of the biggest plug-in car manufacturer in 2018.
Nissan Renault alliance will be third id say.
More production can only mean cheaper prices... one day we might see some cars being sold in Australia :) :purple

[quote][b]Australia has hit a milestone in the drive towards an electric vehicle future with the installation and operation of the 50th publicly-available 50kW DC Fast Charging location in the Hunter Valley Gardens, Pokolbin.[/b] [My emphasis.]

The milestone installation comes during a Senate inquiry into the use and manufacture of electric vehicles in Australia, with a report expected in December this year from the Select Committee for Electric Vehicles.

Brisbane-founded company Tritium’s Veefil-RT 50kW DC Fast Chargers were installed by the NRMA at Pokolbin as part of its $10m electric vehicle fast charging network rollout.

The NRMA's electric vehicle network rollout is expected to be completed in 2019 and aims to install approximately 40 DC Fast Chargers across New South Wales and the ACT.[/quote]

[url]https://itwire.com/market/84845-milestone-electric-vehicle-charging-site-installation-for-australia.html[/url]

EVs making great strides!

I would LOVE to buy an EV but any $$$ has to go to the house right now.

[url]https://cleantechnica.com/2018/10/01/my-experience-volunteering-at-the-tampa-tesla-delivery-center/[/url]
I arrived there at 2:00 pm yesterday (September 30th) and it was flurry of activity. There were about 20 Tesla employees working hard to deliver the cars. There were about 4 deliveries scheduled every hour and there were about 7 owners helping educated the new owners. I checked in with the Tesla staff and their instructions were, “Take a red lanyard to identify yourself as a volunteer owner and just hang out and help where you can.”

I think this is just amazing and the biggest reason yet ive seen why Tesla will do so well
Also all the other car manufacturers need to really look at how they do stuff.
These r the owners of Tesla volunteering to help new Tesla owners get used to their cars...…..
I cant see any other business where ppl would volunteer to help sell the product....
Considering each car starts around $100,000 AUD these r wealthy ppl as well.
It obvious that the Tesla owners don't give a ratsass what Elon does in his free time... These cars must really be amazing and I need to save big to buy one sooner than later. (be awhile I've just bought a new ute,, although I did buy the one with the best fuel economy) :purple

anyone with kids has to do stops......

Yup, I have programmed 3 stops: Keith, Horsham and Melton Service Centre into my trip to Pt Melbourne. Possibly a quick stop in Tailem Bend, some jumps etc, get rid of stiffness, get blood flowing.

Thank god for cruise control—due to arthritis my right foot would get real sore on long trips.

If I had an electric vehicle with 500Km range I still would do the three stops.

[url]https://insideevs.com/audi-electric-cars-charge-80-in-12-minutes/[/url]
Audi BEVs will get 350 kW ultra-fast charging
Currently, Audi is introducing its first all-electric model – the e-tron – which will be able to charge from 0 to 80% in around 30 minutes. That’s at 150 kW of power, which is industry-leading level for passenger cars. Also, the on-board charging (3-phase at 22 kW is swell too).
However, 150 kW is not the goal, but just a temporary level for the first two cars – the e-tron and e-tron Sportback (2019).
The third model – Audi e-tron GT – built on a second BEV platform and equipped with tech from Porsche, [color=#FF0000]will be capable of charging at 350 kW. 80% state of charge should be achievable in 12-minutes.

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This is huge... It means the car will have a range of 500km's and after 500km's u only need tohavea stop of 12 mins to do another 400km's.
I only like doing about 3 hours without a break so id never excede the range of the vehical. beside 900km's with only a 12 min break should releive many fears ppl have about electric cars.
95% of charging is done at home when the owners r asleep so the public chargers r only need for long trips anyway. For most of the year EV owners never have to goto a gas station. I cant wait for aus to catch up :purple

YouLiar won’t like to hear that!

Ok nothing has catched my eye of late but this is pretty cool
[url]https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-5-star-safety-nhtsa/[/url]
It aced all the crash tests and is tops in its class.
It’s now official. The Tesla Model 3 is among the safest cars rated by the NHTSA. It scored top marks in every single tested category.
Beyond that, the Model 3 comes equipped with every NHTSA-recommend safety technology as standard equipment, meaning you don’t have to tick an option box to get a safer Model 3. Every 3 is as safe as the next.
Safety has always been paramount at Tesla, so no surprise here. It was way back in 2013 when the Tesla Model S earned crazy high marks from the NHTSA and now it seems with the Model 3, Tesla had done it again.
Model 3 owners should be thrilled now knowing that the vehicle they drive is basically the safest car in its class.
[img]https://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/v10383P081.jpg[/img]
the model S was the first car to get 5 stars for every category and looks like the new one is doing it to.
:purple

Ahahahahaha! Clever marketing eh? :rofl

well all the hippy stoners will be lining up to buy one anyway

Just want nothing to stop Tesla forging ahead.

I am not being moralistic about this: I have smoked the stuff in my younger days. Just worried about any harm to Tesla—it has its screaming detractors everywhere.

Musk’s hitting some weed was nothing novel. It’s actually quite normal for millions of Americans. And the interview was filmed in California — one of the nine states where marijuana is as legal to consume as a Budweiser

Well, I don’t want the stupidity of the owner to derail the Tesla company. Once the investors start getting paid dividends then he can be eccentric.

[quote="HBS Guy"]He has got a couple of years, and a dividend payment or two, before he can afford to be “eccentric.”[/quote]
yeah he is only worth 22 billion atm, better wait to be eccentric :purple

he's not a publicly elected person, he is a business owner...… He really can do what he wants.
The interview was with a comedian and was musk having fun.... no one wants him to be human

He has got a couple of years, and a dividend payment or two, before he can afford to be “eccentric.”

[quote="HBS Guy"]Until he smoked dope on TV or podcast or whatever. He is so stupid sometimes![/quote]

when you're as rich as Musk, it's not considered stupid, it's considered 'eccentric'