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Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 19 Jun 2019, 07:03

Will go to OfficeWorks today, buy some cartridge and tracing paper, also big sheet graph paper—plan the pergola/gazebo. I still have 3 posts left from the perry pear espalier project, Bluey and his mate can place them so the cherry fan espalier can be started Sep-Oct this year! Excellent!

Sent him a text. Will get the pergola started (at least the posts, no council permission needed for that!) so I can start the wisteria, clematis etc, climbing grapevine would be nice, table grapes, maybe a climbing rose.

Email to a wholesale nursery re jasmine, clematis etc. Get this show on the road!

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 19 Jun 2019, 06:55

Two posts by the shed, wires between the posts, fasten bamboo poles where I want the cherry tree to go, plant the tree, fasten branches to the bamboo posts etc:

Image

https://www.woodbridgefruittrees.com.au/articles-learning/317-fan-espalier.html

A crab apple can also be included to grow over the pergola, e.g:

https://www.woodbridgefruittrees.com.au/crab-apples/199-malus-ionesis-plena.html

or

https://www.woodbridgefruittrees.com.au/crab-apples/102-jack-humm.html

Juice the crabs, make some pectin jelly, add to a cider that needs a lift, etc. And look good while blossoming or has fruit. One crab apple the fruit doesn’t ripen till late August. Trusses of bright red crabs will look nice in the otherwise dreary winter garden.

Wisteria takes 7 years to flower—better get some started this year. Landscaper in Tassie can grow them in grow bags for a couple of years, for $$$ of course but not too expensive. Clematis, jasmine, all sorts. Need to go visit some nurseries here to gain some info then in Tassie to acquire actual plants. Yeah!

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 18 Jun 2019, 11:50

A cherry tree allowed to grow as high as the shed , trained into a fan would hide most of it and give more fruit. An Early Burlat maybe, more cherries for me at christmas time, more cherries to sell to tourists. Beauty of Bath stepover apples—early apples for me and to sell to tourists. Place one post so I can fasten the door of the shed in the open position—whole shed is quite flimsy, afraid the door would be wrenched off the hinges with a strong gust of wind!

Where the gazebo is a cob pizza oven can be behind the pergola

The pergola proper ends by the shed but can continue as a single line of posts at an acute angle to the shed, finishing in line with row 5 and at the other end can run just one line of posts and connecting timber at an acute angle to the house, add another 8 metres to the pergola with the two extensions. There is 10 metres between the back of the house and Row 6 of fruit trees, space to do something nice. If the gazebo can be made say 500mm higher than the pergola you get a hint of an English folly. A cob pizza oven could be built behind the pergola adjacent to the gazebo, etc.

The floor of pergola and gazebo—10cm/4" of white gravel over weedmat. Can’t use pavers, paving bricks etc—clay would break it all up!

Re: Gardening

Post by pinkeye » 17 Jun 2019, 23:07

:thumb

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 17 Jun 2019, 16:22

Out driving most of the day. Been thinking about a pergola and gazebo running 1m in from my southern boundary, curving to pass in front of the shed to hide it a bit. Wisteria, jasmine, roses, a climbing grapevine etc can grow up the back then across the top of the pergola. Have to be careful not to shade the trees in row 6, frontmost row, from useful afternoon sunlight.

In the front of the pergola, put a handrail in place, under it step over apple trees, that don’t reach the handrail. Hopefully be all dense foliage, blossom, fruit, loud with busy bees.

All has to go on stumps seated on the bedrock—make sure the house design includes pergola/gazebo so all holes and all stumps can be drilled/placed in one day, costs a fortune to move machines, materials and staff from the big town nearly 100Km away, found that out very early! Stumps for greenhouse and adjacent chicken coop to be placed at the same time too tho a distance from the house. Same for the pond: want a decent one so will need a swimming pool grade fence, hide it behind roses etc. Have a hill, walk around, there a nice foliage plant, bit further, a nice bit ($600-900) bit of marble statuary bit further I want a furtive garden gnome smoking a pipe keeping a wary eye out for wify then you come on the pond with maybe a little waterfall cascading down the hill etc.

Might get a muscovy duck or two: are silent, lay lots of eggs, go broody: steal the eggs, put false eggs in their place. Duck eggs, YUM!

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 13 Jun 2019, 21:20

I owned and ran a home brew shop. Grains, sugars, flour. Had a mouse plague (little bastards came in about 12' off the ground) then got rid of the meeces when we had a weevil plague. Expert on both pests! Know about possums too.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 13 Jun 2019, 21:18

Yup.

Re: Gardening

Post by pinkeye » 13 Jun 2019, 20:50

that's an option. :bgrin

but beware of mice, rats and ants...they like invading clothes and things.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 13 Jun 2019, 13:05

I have a small 1500 x 3000mm garden shed. Have 2 shelving units of 3 shelves, will buy and install 3 x 1800mm high shelving units, arrange in a U in the back of the shed: nail some dowelling between the two legs of the U and hang shirts from the dowelling.

Re: Gardening

Post by pinkeye » 13 Jun 2019, 04:50

wow, so you're going to spend 3 mths there..? soon? Hey that is good... :))

Nothing wrong with a good campfire, nothing at all. I'd say it is one of the most relaxing and intrinsically human things to do.. to cook over fire. And then to sit, and watch it, and maybe poke it, and stoke it.. under the sky.....

I hope it's soon, and I hope you really enjoy yourself. :bgrin


Oh yeah .. if you can, I'd suggest a second small tent, for storing foodstuffs clothes etc, that's assuming there is no storage on site.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 12 Jun 2019, 14:35

Picked up my Dutch oven. My but it is heavy! Looking forward to cooking much bread in it next year and after.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 11 Jun 2019, 08:26

3 months temporary, hence the need for some size and different rooms. And heaters!

Re: Gardening

Post by pinkeye » 10 Jun 2019, 21:51

Yeah..if I were to camp again, in a tent, I would choose a pop-up.

We're talking temporary and user-friendly.
:thumb

Re: Gardening

Post by Aussie » 10 Jun 2019, 21:43

That is NOT what Monk described....as follows:

3 rooms, roomy enough, can have clothes organised, food etc (in mouse etc proof containers of course.) Just need a shower tent.

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 10 Jun 2019, 20:52

Aussie wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-4-Person-Big-Thick-Waterproof-PopUp-Tent-Outdoor-Family-Camping-Hiking-Fishing/264313145880?hash=item3d8a4a8a18&var&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&enc=AQADAAAC8FjVrDbVsZ8oH%2F8PNHtt9VX4%2Fw7FZcmMuqsX8uaFEduVEb%2BuLZ6plWCoRJNEgR6vE7UjojcEiCBKJK15ynZApcWLPOiQn7Mp57B%2BI%2FuA2s5mhV0W2vJs%2FmFnSIGXnx4epbbKPEeBNWULHUx5xoYaU1upyNfeRb1V8P8Vtvv6P9ouhjq8FJugXPTqQwqbKGOwh2ZXAWhyxRc6nCHqs%2FgLkkt6TK72OQoN0p1SOPodQ22%2FdYmONYX23VjoPoYjD9HYYSVDdsw9kAEC32P9YUr%2FC%2BC%2F6bzoe1J4amQXogYy0pcmB393BKrk0EI2%2BmUL95zCeVMf9q07%2FUqDaZ4d50E05fji%2Bn4xO3trTNBnU8ZaXrqq0e%2BnmM%2FC7bFylLum3aAwwy2XFMjhuk1KepR0o%2Fmh4nhZah1KRcfd8z4xDkLS6hK4RiRKCqVF22TJ65hfz%2B1ZGrX64EolhnaZAOTKKf8Q00p5LKNWCbktxx3YEkVd%2F5WDc5QlsR666Em%2BhOFYnBpgrSqIDTTwXXVTWmTQrgnvgg3Ff6coT9wEDCGbE5AUENxadlskzUFGdbmEnEAx%2FL4nHQMUvrt%2BGsngiKVKrbhJLGtlAtiMflnwSgaDEbYVVQpzGw%2F%2FhPK9m1YYHSq9G9id2jQEwu%2Fe2dvSaLvIFXviwmm8ZIldalBvsUSx%2BFm%2F4quYO0vbge62QV3h2u4QPkAHa8SOMjq8oE30083Gh7ih3GvVO7CHJMmuFV%2BnEDyyZZsJdilyJxKM8ZepFzh9bm59%2FBtYLxJwIxst0A2pcFp0JjGMKrRa556fDNMEvA4rWFqUrjCN5h4gEAa61FYV5861wuLs%2B0%2BlJHcowOOKt%2FTPmbEoKskvPEaAVDm8sVt5DuUpnuhc1wgqydNL7cimzcuhw7dqCOSXsV%2BKN%2BQaMjNNHcaeZDEE3YKw5UDZSBn%2B89r21NG11uPJ6I8Y5YeJ4aLqzywVcyfOtfmW2749ehTSDuNtcKAMsBWuexT5owjU6qM8&checksum=264313145880e775cc0d1fdd44dfb83158a2ddf92aad


All I get on that link is a bunch of tents....none of the kind described by Monk.

:?


scroll down the page until you get to this

3-4 Person Big Thick Waterproof PopUp Tent Outdoor Family Camping Hiking Fishing

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 10 Jun 2019, 19:44

HBS Guy wrote:You are doing it wrong Aussie. Something Mrs Aussie says on a regular basis I am sure!


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Re: Gardening

Post by Aussie » 10 Jun 2019, 19:28

HBS Guy wrote:You are doing it wrong Aussie. Something Mrs Aussie says on a regular basis I am sure!


All I can do is click on the bastard. Not my problem what comes out of that. Many tents.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 10 Jun 2019, 19:12

You are doing it wrong Aussie. Something Mrs Aussie says on a regular basis I am sure!

Re: Gardening

Post by Aussie » 10 Jun 2019, 19:03

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 10 Jun 2019, 18:54

HBS Guy wrote:It IS a popup!


i read all the details except the title bit about it being pop up :clap :clap

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 10 Jun 2019, 18:47

It IS a popup!

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 10 Jun 2019, 18:35

HBS Guy wrote:https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-4-Person-Big-Thick-Waterproof-PopUp-Tent-Outdoor-Family-Camping-Hiking-Fishing/264313145880?hash=item3d8a4a8a18&var&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&enc=AQADAAAC8FjVrDbVsZ8oH%2F8PNHtt9VX4%2Fw7FZcmMuqsX8uaFEduVEb%2BuLZ6plWCoRJNEgR6vE7UjojcEiCBKJK15ynZApcWLPOiQn7Mp57B%2BI%2FuA2s5mhV0W2vJs%2FmFnSIGXnx4epbbKPEeBNWULHUx5xoYaU1upyNfeRb1V8P8Vtvv6P9ouhjq8FJugXPTqQwqbKGOwh2ZXAWhyxRc6nCHqs%2FgLkkt6TK72OQoN0p1SOPodQ22%2FdYmONYX23VjoPoYjD9HYYSVDdsw9kAEC32P9YUr%2FC%2BC%2F6bzoe1J4amQXogYy0pcmB393BKrk0EI2%2BmUL95zCeVMf9q07%2FUqDaZ4d50E05fji%2Bn4xO3trTNBnU8ZaXrqq0e%2BnmM%2FC7bFylLum3aAwwy2XFMjhuk1KepR0o%2Fmh4nhZah1KRcfd8z4xDkLS6hK4RiRKCqVF22TJ65hfz%2B1ZGrX64EolhnaZAOTKKf8Q00p5LKNWCbktxx3YEkVd%2F5WDc5QlsR666Em%2BhOFYnBpgrSqIDTTwXXVTWmTQrgnvgg3Ff6coT9wEDCGbE5AUENxadlskzUFGdbmEnEAx%2FL4nHQMUvrt%2BGsngiKVKrbhJLGtlAtiMflnwSgaDEbYVVQpzGw%2F%2FhPK9m1YYHSq9G9id2jQEwu%2Fe2dvSaLvIFXviwmm8ZIldalBvsUSx%2BFm%2F4quYO0vbge62QV3h2u4QPkAHa8SOMjq8oE30083Gh7ih3GvVO7CHJMmuFV%2BnEDyyZZsJdilyJxKM8ZepFzh9bm59%2FBtYLxJwIxst0A2pcFp0JjGMKrRa556fDNMEvA4rWFqUrjCN5h4gEAa61FYV5861wuLs%2B0%2BlJHcowOOKt%2FTPmbEoKskvPEaAVDm8sVt5DuUpnuhc1wgqydNL7cimzcuhw7dqCOSXsV%2BKN%2BQaMjNNHcaeZDEE3YKw5UDZSBn%2B89r21NG11uPJ6I8Y5YeJ4aLqzywVcyfOtfmW2749ehTSDuNtcKAMsBWuexT5owjU6qM8&checksum=264313145880e775cc0d1fdd44dfb83158a2ddf92aad



thanks ... looks alright, but assembling those on your own can get tricky, especially if it's windy. Seriously, find a pop up one of possible. It's so much easier.

I have a big 3 room, 8 man tent I use for camping, about 5 years old now .. takes me about an hour to set it up with the wife helping. I recently went to the camping store and they have the same tent, but in the latest version ... a pop up ... it takes 5 minutes to assemble on your own.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 10 Jun 2019, 18:14

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 10 Jun 2019, 17:38

LINK DOESN'T WORK.

I can't see what you're getting but get a pop up tent. Much easier to assemble

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 10 Jun 2019, 17:37

Saw this on Ebay, reckon looks alright: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/OZtrail-Seascape-3-Room-Sleeps-10-Dome-Family-10-Man-Person-Tent-New

3 rooms, roomy enough, can have clothes organised, food etc (in mouse etc proof containers of course.) Just need a shower tent.

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