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Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 17 Oct 2018, 19:14

Yeah, then find someone with a dingo to roughly distribute the gravel in the trenches, I can do the final spreading of gravel.

Might be able to visit the Salamanca markets this next trip!

Re: Gardening

Post by Sprintcyclist » 17 Oct 2018, 18:44

HBS Guy wrote:At last! Got a message from the tractor guy, he got my email but forgot.

Hope he can do the work, will make next April a lot easier!


Good news.

Yes, the more he can do with his tractor the better.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 16 Oct 2018, 17:39

At last! Got a message from the tractor guy, he got my email but forgot.

Hope he can do the work, will make next April a lot easier!

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 18:43

4" is just the depth of the bags of soil (i said 4 but upon reflection it's closer to 10. Two concrete sleepers deep and they're 150 mm wide each). Then under that is more soil. By the time it gets to that depth the tomatoes will be established.

We'll see how we go this year, if it doesn't work then next year I'll go deeper. I've had success in the past in pots that were about the same depth so I didn't think i had to go deeper.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 14 Oct 2018, 17:49

4" deep???

Try 40" deep!

Tomato seedlings: trim off all “branches” and plant it with just the tip showing: all that stem will send out roots, meaning your plant gets more water/nutrients!

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 17:39

Aussie wrote:
.....but wifey dearest likes her palms (cause she never has to deal with the mess).


I hate palm trees. Not one within cooey of where we are now. Fuck palm trees. Dirty bloody things drop shit everywhere.



you and me both. They're ore trouble than they are worth

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 17:39

HBS Guy wrote:You NEED to take your soil pH. That is bedrock stuff. Buy a kit, buy a cheap pH meter buy both. If it is acid (pH under 7) you need lime, if it is alkaline (pH > 7) no lime, use gypsum. Spread some potassium sulphate, more if you have alkaline soil.

Dig in lots of organic matter, compost and cow or sheep poop. Spread mulch to stop the sun baking your soil. Gardening 101.



I filled my garden bed with bags of soil specifically for tomatoes and vege's. Bed is about 4 inches deep, with plenty of drainage since it sits atop a retaining wall.

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Re: Gardening

Post by Aussie » 14 Oct 2018, 17:34

.....but wifey dearest likes her palms (cause she never has to deal with the mess).


I hate palm trees. Not one within cooey of where we are now. Fuck palm trees. Dirty bloody things drop shit everywhere.

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 17:33

Sprintcyclist wrote:
johnsmith wrote:With trees I'm going to put in peach, nectarines and figs.

I'm just waiting for wifey dearest to find a job, then while she's at work, out will come my chainsaw to make some room.
By the time she gets home it'll be to late :gsp

that might not lead to matrimonial harmony or the best end result for your garden


we had made a deal shortly after moving here that she could keep her tree's if she cleaned up the mess and raked the yard .... a few days later she hurt her back so was unable to keep up her end of the bargain. Her back is fine now and has been for a few weeks, but she still has never pick up a palm frond and I doubt she knows what the garden rake looks like. Should she complain, I'll remind her of the deal and buy her some flowers ...she'll get over it pretty quickly :bgrin

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 14 Oct 2018, 16:59

You NEED to take your soil pH. That is bedrock stuff. Buy a kit, buy a cheap pH meter buy both. If it is acid (pH under 7) you need lime, if it is alkaline (pH > 7) no lime, use gypsum. Spread some potassium sulphate, more if you have alkaline soil.

Dig in lots of organic matter, compost and cow or sheep poop. Spread mulch to stop the sun baking your soil. Gardening 101.

Re: Gardening

Post by Sprintcyclist » 14 Oct 2018, 16:53

johnsmith wrote:With trees I'm going to put in peach, nectarines and figs.

I'm just waiting for wifey dearest to find a job, then while she's at work, out will come my chainsaw to make some room.
By the time she gets home it'll be to late :gsp


that might not lead to matrimonial harmony or the best end result for your garden

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 16:49

don't complicate things monk.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 14 Oct 2018, 16:45

Tomatoes are easy. Need lime—check soil pH, if acid to neutral dig in dolomite, else dig in gypsum. Dig in TONS of organic matter, I use two bags compost to one bag cow manure. Keep the water up. Two spotted mite and black fly main problems—spray sulphur dioxide. Alternately spray seaweed extract. If you get blossom end rot a spray of epson salts is good.

Greenleaf veges: chard, cabbage, lettuce, endive needs nitrogen—cow manure is good.

Beans—need lime.

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 16:31

HBS Guy wrote:There will be argy bargy at casa Smith that can be heard in the next suburb :bgrin

But yeah, grow some veges. Broadbeans must be the easiest veges to grow, grow nothing else, pick, pod, parboil, dry, bag, shove into freezer. Don’t plant too early, 1.5m broadbean stalks too vulnerable to winter storms.

Spinach/chard/silverbeet nearly as easy. A few snail pellets or beer traps to keep snails at bay is all it takes. Pick and come again broccoli.

Anyone pretty much can grow a lemon tree. And peach.



House already has a lemon tree .... in need of some desperate pruning though. On my to do list

Summer starts early here, i don't get winter frosts in winter.

I'll have to try some of your suggestions. I'm a greenhorn when it comes to growing veges so the easier to grow, the better for my ego. Apart from a few tomatoes in pots I've never had the opportunity to try other things until now.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 14 Oct 2018, 16:21

There will be argy bargy at casa Smith that can be heard in the next suburb :bgrin

But yeah, grow some veges. Broadbeans must be the easiest veges to grow, grow nothing else, pick, pod, parboil, dry, bag, shove into freezer. Don’t plant too early, 1.5m broadbean stalks too vulnerable to winter storms.

Spinach/chard/silverbeet nearly as easy. A few snail pellets or beer traps to keep snails at bay is all it takes. Pick and come again broccoli.

Anyone pretty much can grow a lemon tree. And peach.

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 10:52

DonDeeHippy wrote:Good old Wal (footrot flats fan) :purple


Used to love footrot flats. :yellow

Re: Gardening

Post by DonDeeHippy » 14 Oct 2018, 10:51

Good old Wal (footrot flats fan) :purple

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 10:49

With trees I'm going to put in peach, nectarines and figs.

I'm just waiting for wifey dearest to find a job, then while she's at work, out will come my chainsaw to make some room.
By the time she gets home it'll be to late :gsp

Re: Gardening

Post by DonDeeHippy » 14 Oct 2018, 10:47

johnsmith wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
johnsmith wrote:I just started organising my vege patch at my new place.

I don't have a lot of options in regards to location because of the layout of the house/pool/shed etc, but i have a strip of about 10 m x 1200 mm along the pool fence which was full of ornamental plants. It will get a lot of sunshine once the damn rain goes away so will be well suited to grow veges.

I've been ripping them out the plants and digging out the pebbles (hate the damn rocks), replacing rotten wooden sleepers with concrete ones, back filling with bags of soil blended to grow veges, and so far I've planted tomatoes, capsicum (three types) and lettuce. ... and I'm only half way along. Also going to try some beans and some cucumber.

I also want to grow a passion fruit vine along the pool fence. It might sound crazy, but pool is at back of house, and my outdoor area is on the side. The house is a H shape so from where we sit in the outdoor area, we can't see the pool fence anyway so I may as well put the fence to good use since the aesthetics don't matter.

the only thing I think is crazy is than more ppl don't grow edible gardens around their homes..
Choko vines r also really good and very hard to kill ;) :purple



I agree. I never understood why people dedicate hours to grow a useless flowers or shrubs, when with the same time, hey can grow fresh vege's to eat. If it were up to me all the palms and eucalyptus trees on my property (about 24) would have been cut down in the first week, and replaced with edible fruit bearing trees...... but wifey dearest likes her palms (cause she never has to deal with the mess).

i don't like/eat choko's .

It's a great feeling to give away produce u grow.... Give the choko's away and feel great ;)
I don't know much about dates..... but could they be planted.... palms and food :)
Coconuts as well :purple

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 10:28

DonDeeHippy wrote:
johnsmith wrote:I just started organising my vege patch at my new place.

I don't have a lot of options in regards to location because of the layout of the house/pool/shed etc, but i have a strip of about 10 m x 1200 mm along the pool fence which was full of ornamental plants. It will get a lot of sunshine once the damn rain goes away so will be well suited to grow veges.

I've been ripping them out the plants and digging out the pebbles (hate the damn rocks), replacing rotten wooden sleepers with concrete ones, back filling with bags of soil blended to grow veges, and so far I've planted tomatoes, capsicum (three types) and lettuce. ... and I'm only half way along. Also going to try some beans and some cucumber.

I also want to grow a passion fruit vine along the pool fence. It might sound crazy, but pool is at back of house, and my outdoor area is on the side. The house is a H shape so from where we sit in the outdoor area, we can't see the pool fence anyway so I may as well put the fence to good use since the aesthetics don't matter.

the only thing I think is crazy is than more ppl don't grow edible gardens around their homes..
Choko vines r also really good and very hard to kill ;) :purple



I agree. I never understood why people dedicate hours to grow a useless flowers or shrubs, when with the same time, hey can grow fresh vege's to eat. If it were up to me all the palms and eucalyptus trees on my property (about 24) would have been cut down in the first week, and replaced with edible fruit bearing trees...... but wifey dearest likes her palms (cause she never has to deal with the mess).

i don't like/eat choko's .

Re: Gardening

Post by DonDeeHippy » 14 Oct 2018, 10:15

johnsmith wrote:I just started organising my vege patch at my new place.

I don't have a lot of options in regards to location because of the layout of the house/pool/shed etc, but i have a strip of about 10 m x 1200 mm along the pool fence which was full of ornamental plants. It will get a lot of sunshine once the damn rain goes away so will be well suited to grow veges.

I've been ripping them out the plants and digging out the pebbles (hate the damn rocks), replacing rotten wooden sleepers with concrete ones, back filling with bags of soil blended to grow veges, and so far I've planted tomatoes, capsicum (three types) and lettuce. ... and I'm only half way along. Also going to try some beans and some cucumber.

I also want to grow a passion fruit vine along the pool fence. It might sound crazy, but pool is at back of house, and my outdoor area is on the side. The house is a H shape so from where we sit in the outdoor area, we can't see the pool fence anyway so I may as well put the fence to good use since the aesthetics don't matter.

the only thing I think is crazy is than more ppl don't grow edible gardens around their homes..
Choko vines r also really good and very hard to kill ;) :purple

Re: Gardening

Post by johnsmith » 14 Oct 2018, 09:00

I just started organising my vege patch at my new place.

I don't have a lot of options in regards to location because of the layout of the house/pool/shed etc, but i have a strip of about 10 m x 1200 mm along the pool fence which was full of ornamental plants. It will get a lot of sunshine once the damn rain goes away so will be well suited to grow veges.

I've been ripping them out the plants and digging out the pebbles (hate the damn rocks), replacing rotten wooden sleepers with concrete ones, back filling with bags of soil blended to grow veges, and so far I've planted tomatoes, capsicum (three types) and lettuce. ... and I'm only half way along. Also going to try some beans and some cucumber.

I also want to grow a passion fruit vine along the pool fence. It might sound crazy, but pool is at back of house, and my outdoor area is on the side. The house is a H shape so from where we sit in the outdoor area, we can't see the pool fence anyway so I may as well put the fence to good use since the aesthetics don't matter.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 13 Oct 2018, 16:30

Blackberry—declared a noxious weed in Tassie, not for sale there. Raspberry isn’t mentioned and nurseries sell them so won’t go feral.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 13 Oct 2018, 16:06

Rhubarb wants full sun too, so in the vege or herb patch not under trees. Probably keep part of the raspberry row for a double row of rhubarb, 5-6 plants.

I assume rhubarb freezes OK? Or stew it and can it, add some lemon juice to increase acidity.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 13 Oct 2018, 15:59

Brambles aka drupe fruits, raspberries and blackberries (and their hybrids) love sun.

You cannot give a blackberry too much heat or too much humidity!

Doubt I will plant blackberries unless I can find a seedless type. Birds get to my blackberries there is just WAY too much vacant land around here where blackberries can grow from the seed shat out of a bird. No way do I want that put down to me!

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