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Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 24 Dec 2018, 22:31

Rather a weedmat than Roundup!

Re: Gardening

Post by Sprintcyclist » 24 Dec 2018, 22:28

HBS Guy wrote:Emailed the local bloke, what if you put down weed mats etc? Got the reply—already sprayed with Roundup.

Oh well. I tried.


I sort of dislike weedmats

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 24 Dec 2018, 20:27

Emailed the local bloke, what if you put down weed mats etc? Got the reply—already sprayed with Roundup.

Oh well. I tried.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 20 Dec 2018, 09:19

Actually, the flour will be wholegrain flour.

Fascinating things, grains.

Ever tried barley bread, made from barley flour? Chew, swallow—and it is like razorblades are sliding down your gullet. These are the husks that surround the barley grain. In the mash (or lauter) tun these husks form a sort of sieve allowing the wort to be rinsed (sparged or lautered, lots of German words in brewing) from the grains and after just a little bit of recirculation the wort runs clear, all the “bits” sieved out by the husks.

Wheat has no husk. It also has hellish high (for a brewer) protein levels.

Oats have LOTS of beta glucans, gums. If you haven’t conducted a betaglucanase rest the mashbed looks and acts like a big wodge of chewing gum! Found myself in that situation once. What to do? Took a colander, pushed it into the top of the mash. Wort seeped in and I scooped it out and poured it through a sieve into the kettle, added more sparge water to the mash, stirred it in, stuck the colander in.

Bit of a lengthy brewday and slightly cloudy beer. The hell, it was a stout, can’t see if it is cloudy! Oatmeal stouts are godly.


Anyway, emailed the bloke again, suggested he rent a rotary hoe: be more work and $$$ for him so should be happy. Won’t be able to do it immediately: he is slashing grass/weeds on the vacant blocks like mine, removing fire hazard. Will see, if there is no rain there then the ground might be too hard for a hand operated hoe.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 19 Dec 2018, 09:53

Going to try and visit this:

https://www.callingtonmill.com.au/

Buy some nice stoneground wholemeal bread flour.

If I can get there I can get to New Norfolk—antique shops. Maybe that distillery Aussie wants me to try.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 19 Dec 2018, 09:39

Yeah.

Re: Gardening

Post by Sprintcyclist » 19 Dec 2018, 02:00

HBS Guy wrote:Phhh dear me. Got an email from the slasher guy: because of all the rain he can’t see the rows I worked on, would need a herbicide spray and me coming down to mark out the rows again. Geez, what I don’t want to hear.

Can’t really get it rotary hoed or ploughed because I left 450mm star droppers embedded in the ground to help me repeg everything next visit. Don’t want to go there, to much $$$ wasted, to much emotional drama getting sis to look after Mum for a day or two.

So, after thinking about it, told the slasher to buy a sprayer and herbicide and spray the area between the two rows he already chipped, then he can easily measure out rows 2,3 & 4 and spread pine chips there. Didn’t WANT to spray herbicide but needs must, I suppose. Be 4 months, close enough, before the trees are planted, should be OK.

What can you do?


Drat

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 17 Dec 2018, 19:59

Yeh, would prefer to have the rows ploughed—but there are 10 stardroppers there would bugger plough or rotary hoe.

Re: Gardening

Post by DonDeeHippy » 17 Dec 2018, 19:42

That sucks I detest round up........
Just get Dax to help... :rofl sorry bad taste.
U need someone on the same page to look after your bit of paradise when your gone. :purple

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 17 Dec 2018, 18:06

Phhh dear me. Got an email from the slasher guy: because of all the rain he can’t see the rows I worked on, would need a herbicide spray and me coming down to mark out the rows again. Geez, what I don’t want to hear.

Can’t really get it rotary hoed or ploughed because I left 450mm star droppers embedded in the ground to help me repeg everything next visit. Don’t want to go there, to much $$$ wasted, to much emotional drama getting sis to look after Mum for a day or two.

So, after thinking about it, told the slasher to buy a sprayer and herbicide and spray the area between the two rows he already chipped, then he can easily measure out rows 2,3 & 4 and spread pine chips there. Didn’t WANT to spray herbicide but needs must, I suppose. Be 4 months, close enough, before the trees are planted, should be OK.

What can you do?

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 13 Dec 2018, 20:27

Fresh air, exercise, unsprayed veges, flowers etc etc. That and a dog to walk and you can live forever!

Re: Gardening

Post by Sprintcyclist » 12 Dec 2018, 23:11

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 09 Dec 2018, 16:01

I think I will take my drawing and other info to a professional draughtsman to draw up professionally including the work I want done. Reckon that will result in a plan machine operators can follow so the drainage ditches will be dug as I require.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 21 Nov 2018, 15:35

And this one I found yesterday:
http://www.anfic.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ANFIC-Sweet-Cherry-Pollination-Table-28012014.pdf
Will explore this one.

There are so many varieties of each type of fruit tho that no one site will cover all of them.

For more rounded information you need a book or two:

“The Holistic Orchard” and “The Apple Grower” and “Mycorrhizal Planet” by Michael Phillips.

Keeping fruit trees small—no ladders needed, trees can be netted so you not the bloody birds eat your fruit:
Anna Ralph “Grow a little fruit tree”

If you want fruit you need either:
One self fertile tree, or
Two trees each a different variety of the same fruit that bloom at the same time.

Best is to get a fruit tree on a semi-dwarfing rootstock: M111 for apples, Colt for cherries etc. No semi-dwarfing apricot trees—quite frankly, I would BUY my apricots rather than grow them.

At least have a lemon tree, no matter how dwarf!

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 21 Nov 2018, 15:32

Well, it is a good idea to look at a tree nursery website, select some trees you like then research research research!

One good site: https://www.orangepippintrees.com/


A couple Australian sites (nursery sites:)
http://www.heritagefruittrees.com.au
https://www.woodbridgefruittrees.com.au


This is a good site, Australian, NSW Dept Primary Industry. My go to site for Australian (if maybe not quite Tasmanian conditions:)
https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/horticulture

Re: Gardening

Post by Sprintcyclist » 21 Nov 2018, 09:43

HBS Guy wrote:Received the booklet “Gardening in Clay Soil” just now. 27 pages—not long! I find the Storey Publications while not going into any depth give a bloody good introduction to the subject. None of the booklets has ever had anything incorrect in them.

Now for the not so good news—from the “NEVER EVER trust a tree nursery” department:

I doubt the Stella cherry variety, pollination group 4 is going to do much for my Early Burlat or Napoleon cherries which are pollination group 1.

Will see. The Stella is self fertile so will bear fruit and so not a waste. Will do some more reading.

They also said the plums Greengage and Coe’s Golden Drop would pollinate each other—nope, different pollination groups so flower at different times and will not cross pollinate each other. Found that out from an article somewhere by Peter Cundall.

Reckon I could write a book on all this crap by the time it is all finished! Far out!



' ...... from the “NEVER EVER trust a tree nursery” department: ....... '
that's disappointing

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 20 Nov 2018, 13:31

Nope, am golden, all in Pollination Period 3 and Stella is a “universal donor”—seems cherries have different “alleles” that determine how well cross pollination goes but Stella will do the job.

Phew!

Napoleon aka “Royal Anne” is in a different allele group to Early Burlat so can cross pollinate Napoleon and vice versa and Stella will pollinate both.

I think I might have cried if the trees couldn’t cross pollinate each other (Napoleon and Early Burlat will ensure Stella bears a bigger crop than just the Stella tree by itself.) Think I will grow them as a fan:
https://www.woodbridgefruittrees.com.au/articles-learning/317-fan-espalier.html

Read all about it: http://www.anfic.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ANFIC-Sweet-Cherry-Pollination-Table-28012014.pdf

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 20 Nov 2018, 13:23

Received the booklet “Gardening in Clay Soil” just now. 27 pages—not long! I find the Storey Publications while not going into any depth give a bloody good introduction to the subject. None of the booklets has ever had anything incorrect in them.

Now for the not so good news—from the “NEVER EVER trust a tree nursery” department:

I doubt the Stella cherry variety, pollination group 4 is going to do much for my Early Burlat or Napoleon cherries which are pollination group 1.

Will see. The Stella is self fertile so will bear fruit and so not a waste. Will do some more reading.

They also said the plums Greengage and Coe’s Golden Drop would pollinate each other—nope, different pollination groups so flower at different times and will not cross pollinate each other. Found that out from an article somewhere by Peter Cundall.

Reckon I could write a book on all this crap by the time it is all finished! Far out!

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 17 Nov 2018, 18:15

Quince can be quite pear shaped.

Re: Gardening

Post by Sprintcyclist » 17 Nov 2018, 18:04

HBS Guy wrote:Nashi and quince.


Ah, well ......... I was nowhere near it !!!!!!!!

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 17 Nov 2018, 16:29

Nashi and quince.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 17 Nov 2018, 12:33

Nope—not pome fruit, seeds everywhere, not in a core.

Neither fruit begins with a “p”

Re: Gardening

Post by Sprintcyclist » 17 Nov 2018, 12:15

HBS Guy wrote:A perry pear can be a hard, astringent thing to eat. Not even pigs will eat them and pigs will eat about anything. I read an account of a squirrel eating a perry pear: it ate and spat out the flesh until it got to the core and then it ate the pips!

Some are pears that can be eaten save there are better eating varieties now.

Fun fact: apples float on water, pears sink.

What other two fruits are in the pome fruit family?


Pommegranites and Persimmons ?

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 17 Nov 2018, 08:07

Depending on how much time I have in April I will prepare spots to plant some semi dwarf eating apples in the southern parts of the rows. Could also prepare spots for dwarf perry pear trees—be nice to have them going too! The trees to be planted in July or in spring when the soil is not soaking wet. Will need to prepare the spots for two more Yarlington Mill bittersweet cider apples—spread sand, compost, gypsum and sheep shit and some potassium sulphate and rock dust, spread that over a square metre, dig in as much as possible, hope the winter rain gets it further down.

If you have a new semi-dwarf tree, thin stem maybe a branch or two, be ruthless and cut the stem at about the 60cm mark, knee height. Branches will form—scaffold branches. This is the key to keeping the tree small and branches low and easy to reach. Obviously, this has not been done with my trees being looked after in Launceston but the younger trees I should still be able to do that. The trees from the year before they may be too old for that. They should have been planted in September but that trip had to be put off, so the trees will have had another summers growth by April unfortunately.

Will see what I can do. Especially with the cherry trees I have to be able to net them—not interested in feeding the birds! Bending may save the day. I will buy a bloody good pair of secateurs! Also stuff to put on cut surfaces—winter will follow with lots of rain and rot may happen.

Get the slasher guy to spread hardwood chips after I have gone.

Re: Gardening

Post by HBS Guy » 17 Nov 2018, 07:39

A perry pear can be a hard, astringent thing to eat. Not even pigs will eat them and pigs will eat about anything. I read an account of a squirrel eating a perry pear: it ate and spat out the flesh until it got to the core and then it ate the pips!

Some are pears that can be eaten save there are better eating varieties now.

Fun fact: apples float on water, pears sink.

What other two fruits are in the pome fruit family?

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