Will Republican Senators Honor Their Impeachment Oaths?

DreamRyderX

Active member
Squire said:
DreamRyderX said:
SethBullock said:
..........There is an important difference between what is legal and what is legitimate. And if the majority in the Senate don't believe the House process was legitimate, they are not obligated to treat it like it was.

Seth
I don't respect the U.S. House of Representatives Impeachment process as legitimate........in order to be legitimate, in my own personal opinion, the Articles of Impeachment must honor the US Constitution, Article II, Section IV, as the American Founding Fathers intended, & the Articles must be passed via a bi-partisan vote. The charges levied in the Articles of Impeachment must consist of highly serious criminal transgressions, important enough to warrant an eminent Officer, as prominent as the President of the United States of America, to be removed from Office ... not a purely & completely one sided partisan vote, based on flimsy at best charges.

As of 2019 the United States Senate Oath of office is as follows:

Source: THE UNITED STATES SENATE
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.
The above is a US Senator's Oath of Office, & as long as he honors that solemn oath, his impartiality as a sort of juror in any political so called "Impeachment Trial" is secondary to his/her obligations to that Oath of Office, for he/she is a Senator, & not a Juror or Judge, & is subject only to his/her own personal beliefs & opinions when their personal decision making impartiality comes into play.......

Bottom line.....oath or none.....the Prosecution in the anticipated political "Impeachment Trial" will never get 67 votes to politically convict & remove President Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, of any political charge made to date........period.


...........................God Bless President Donald John Trump..............God Bless AMERICA

..
There is a separate oath for senators in impeachment trials.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CDOC-99sdoc33/html/CDOC-99sdoc33.htm
... \29\ Ibid., p. 871; this form was agreed to in 1868, but as
reported to the Senate, it provided that the form of the oath was to be
administered to the Presiding Officer and members of the Senate.
Senator Charles Drake of Missouri raises the point that the
Constitution did not require that the Presiding Officer be sworn, only
the Senators, and indeed that the Chief Justice was already sworn to
perform his duties, and that presiding in an impeachment trial was part
of those duties. (March 2, 1868, 40-2, Congressional Globe, pp. 1590-
93.) As a result, the Senate agreed to an amendment striking out the
words ``Presiding Officer'' from the heading providing for the oath. In
spite of this, when the Chief Justice arrived in the Senate for the
trial of Andrew Johnson, he was accompanied by the senior Associate
Justice of the Supreme Court who did administer the oath.
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Whereupon the Chief Justice administered the oath to the
Senators individually and in alphabetical order. The oath is
found in Rule XXV.

...

Oaths to Senators

Form of, Given Each Senator:

The form of oath administered to each Senator, as set forth
under Rule XXV, is as follows:
I solemnly swear (or affirm, as the case may be) that
in all things appertaining to the trial of the
impeachment of ------ ------, now pending, I will do
impartial justice according to the Constitution and
laws: So help me God.

Records Kept of Senators Taking Oaths After Trial Begins:

On March 12, 1936, during the trial of Halsted Ritter, it
was announced that it was the duty of the Journal Clerk to keep
the names of Senators who had taken the oath since Senators
took the oath en bloc and there would be no other record.\167\
...
And that impartiality exists solely between the Senator & his/her God. Their vote, to convict or not convict the President of highly debatable & Ultra-Partisan Impeachable Offenses, is a matter of their own personal level of objectivity, & that is how they will vote. The American People have their remedy if they feel slighted by their Senator's Vote on the Articles of Impeachment................the Ballot Box on each & every Election Day.........period.
 

DreamRyderX

Active member
pinkeye said:
Well DREX, I do hope you put your vote to good use.
I will......Based on all the opposition in & from the demon-RAT Party, & how they acted during the past 3 years for sure, I will gladly be casting my one vote for President Donald John Trump for a second term in office, to continue doing the best he can for the American People, regardless of all the obstruction he will obviously be getting from the butt-hurt leftist/socialist/communist whingers in the demon-RAT Party......

............
 

SethBullock

Moderator
Staff member
If anyone on this forum wants a coherent, articulate perspective, with historical context, then reserve a half an hour for this. This was an excellent presentation by Mitch McConnell.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQiFdlKBmg[/youtube]
 

greggerypeccary

Active member
SethBullock said:
If anyone on this forum wants a coherent, articulate perspective, with historical context, then reserve a half an hour for this. This was an excellent presentation by Mitch McConnell.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQiFdlKBmg[/youtube]

:bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin

I thought Seth was a cop.

Turns out he's actually a comedian.
 

SethBullock

Moderator
Staff member
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
If anyone on this forum wants a coherent, articulate perspective, with historical context, then reserve a half an hour for this. This was an excellent presentation by Mitch McConnell.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQiFdlKBmg[/youtube]

:bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin

I thought Seth was a cop.

Turns out he's actually a comedian.
How much of it did you watch?
 

DonDeeHippy

Active member
why bother Seth , he is so hate filled he wont answer questions or look into anything just insult you and repeat how bad Trump is.... shame really :purple
 

SethBullock

Moderator
Staff member
Thanks Hippy.

I challenge you guys to actually listen to McConnell's speech in its entirety and actually talk about it rather than just poking at me.
 

greggerypeccary

Active member
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
If anyone on this forum wants a coherent, articulate perspective, with historical context, then reserve a half an hour for this. This was an excellent presentation by Mitch McConnell.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQiFdlKBmg[/youtube]

:bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin

I thought Seth was a cop.

Turns out he's actually a comedian.
How much of it did you watch?
All of it.

The guy is clearly insane (or suffering from dementia).

He talks absolute bullshit, coupled with conspiracy theories.

How are people like this allowed to be out on the streets, let alone involved in your political process?
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
DreamRyderX said:
pinkeye said:
Well DREX, I do hope you put your vote to good use.
I will......Based on all the opposition in & from the demon-RAT Party, & how they acted during the past 3 years for sure, I will gladly be casting my one vote for President Donald John Trump for a second term in office, to continue doing the best he can for the American People, regardless of all the obstruction he will obviously be getting from the butt-hurt leftist/socialist/communist whingers in the demon-RAT Party......

............
you realise the truth could not be further from what that picture depicts?..... (except for the poor girl he will get to piss on him after which he then grabs her by the pussy and rapes her)

christ almighty at least liberty leading the people (which it is a rip off of) had a message.

or he will just steal all her money

americans are so stupid

it's bordering on cute
 

SethBullock

Moderator
Staff member
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
If anyone on this forum wants a coherent, articulate perspective, with historical context, then reserve a half an hour for this. This was an excellent presentation by Mitch McConnell.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQiFdlKBmg[/youtube]

:bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin

I thought Seth was a cop.

Turns out he's actually a comedian.
How much of it did you watch?
All of it.

The guy is clearly insane (or suffering from dementia).

He talks absolute bullshit, coupled with conspiracy theories.

How are people like this allowed to be out on the streets, let alone involved in your political process?
What part did you think was bullshit, and what's your articulate and rational rebuttal?
 

Squire

Active member
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
If anyone on this forum wants a coherent, articulate perspective, with historical context, then reserve a half an hour for this. This was an excellent presentation by Mitch McConnell.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQiFdlKBmg[/youtube]

:bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin

I thought Seth was a cop.

Turns out he's actually a comedian.
How much of it did you watch?
All of it.

The guy is clearly insane (or suffering from dementia).

He talks absolute bullshit, coupled with conspiracy theories.

How are people like this allowed to be out on the streets, let alone involved in your political process?
What part did you think was bullshit, and what's your articulate and rational rebuttal?
Mitch McConnell is so far up Donald Trump's anus he will never find his way out unless Donald Trump suffers a catastrophic constipation cure.
 

SethBullock

Moderator
Staff member
Squire said:
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
If anyone on this forum wants a coherent, articulate perspective, with historical context, then reserve a half an hour for this. This was an excellent presentation by Mitch McConnell.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQiFdlKBmg[/youtube]

:bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin

I thought Seth was a cop.

Turns out he's actually a comedian.
How much of it did you watch?
All of it.

The guy is clearly insane (or suffering from dementia).

He talks absolute bullshit, coupled with conspiracy theories.

How are people like this allowed to be out on the streets, let alone involved in your political process?
What part did you think was bullshit, and what's your articulate and rational rebuttal?
Mitch McConnell is so far up Donald Trump's anus he will never find his way out unless Donald Trump suffers a catastrophic constipation cure.
Wow ...

Did you watch and listen to his speech?

What point did he bring up that you disagree with?
 

greggerypeccary

Active member
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
If anyone on this forum wants a coherent, articulate perspective, with historical context, then reserve a half an hour for this. This was an excellent presentation by Mitch McConnell.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQiFdlKBmg[/youtube]

:bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin

I thought Seth was a cop.

Turns out he's actually a comedian.
How much of it did you watch?
All of it.

The guy is clearly insane (or suffering from dementia).

He talks absolute bullshit, coupled with conspiracy theories.

How are people like this allowed to be out on the streets, let alone involved in your political process?
What part did you think was bullshit ...
The bit between 1 second, and 32 mins 49 secs.

The rest was just okay.
 

greggerypeccary

Active member
Squire said:
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
If anyone on this forum wants a coherent, articulate perspective, with historical context, then reserve a half an hour for this. This was an excellent presentation by Mitch McConnell.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNQiFdlKBmg[/youtube]

:bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin

I thought Seth was a cop.

Turns out he's actually a comedian.
How much of it did you watch?
All of it.

The guy is clearly insane (or suffering from dementia).

He talks absolute bullshit, coupled with conspiracy theories.

How are people like this allowed to be out on the streets, let alone involved in your political process?
What part did you think was bullshit, and what's your articulate and rational rebuttal?
Mitch McConnell is so far up Donald Trump's anus he will never find his way out unless Donald Trump suffers a catastrophic constipation cure.
Indeed.

Seth is having a lend of us.

There's no way in the world he thinks that was a good speech.

It was the rantings of an insane man.
 

MilesAway

Bongalong
hatty said:
DreamRyderX said:
pinkeye said:
Well DREX, I do hope you put your vote to good use.
I will......Based on all the opposition in & from the demon-RAT Party, & how they acted during the past 3 years for sure, I will gladly be casting my one vote for President Donald John Trump for a second term in office, to continue doing the best he can for the American People, regardless of all the obstruction he will obviously be getting from the butt-hurt leftist/socialist/communist whingers in the demon-RAT Party......

............
you realise the truth could not be further from what that picture depicts?..... (except for the poor girl he will get to piss on him after which he then grabs her by the pussy and rapes her)

christ almighty at least liberty leading the people (which it is a rip off of) had a message.

or he will just steal all her money

americans are so stupid

it's bordering on cute
It's funny: an alleged teacher on the internet accusing someone of being a rapist without any proof: I THINK I'VE MET THE REAL THING BUT THE THING WAS THEY ADMITTED TO BEING TOTAL FUCK SLUTS TO THE DEGREE THAT NOT ONE OF THEIR FAMILY AND/OR FRIENDS COULD DENY IF THEY EVEN WANTED TO TRY AND DENY SUCH PREVIOUS BEHAVIOUR!

:tweed
 

SethBullock

Moderator
Staff member
greggerypeccary said:
Squire said:
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
SethBullock said:
greggerypeccary said:
:bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin

I thought Seth was a cop.

Turns out he's actually a comedian.
How much of it did you watch?
All of it.

The guy is clearly insane (or suffering from dementia).

He talks absolute bullshit, coupled with conspiracy theories.

How are people like this allowed to be out on the streets, let alone involved in your political process?
What part did you think was bullshit, and what's your articulate and rational rebuttal?
Mitch McConnell is so far up Donald Trump's anus he will never find his way out unless Donald Trump suffers a catastrophic constipation cure.
Indeed.

Seth is having a lend of us.

There's no way in the world he thinks that was a good speech.

It was the rantings of an insane man.
I thought he was articulate, well organized, clearly understandable, and I liked his references to history.

What specific point did he make that you disagree with and why?
 

Aussie1

Administrator
SethBullock said:
Thanks Hippy.

I challenge you guys to actually listen to McConnell's speech in its entirety and actually talk about it rather than just poking at me.
I lasted a little more than five minutes, and I agreed with everything he waxed lyrical about. It was 100% irrelevant bellyaching. They were after Trump before Day One, and what a fool he was to play into their hands.
 

SethBullock

Moderator
Staff member
Aussie said:
SethBullock said:
Thanks Hippy.

I challenge you guys to actually listen to McConnell's speech in its entirety and actually talk about it rather than just poking at me.
I lasted a little more than five minutes, and I agreed with everything he waxed lyrical about. It was 100% irrelevant bellyaching. They were after Trump before Day One, and what a fool he was to play into their hands.
I challenge you to listen to the whole thing. It's a lot more than what you remember from the first 5 minutes. Listen to this articulate, well-organized man work through his analysis, and then talk about it.
 
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