Veterans Day

SethBullock

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Reinventing English ... "most least".
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Their participation and presence in war remembrance ceremonies glorifies war.
That depends on one's experiences and perspective. Many of us think that the remembrance of those we lost reminds us of the true cost of war.

If the civil war, American Indians, and Mexicans are included in the count, Americans have killed more people than any other country.

It is arguable that the USA has killed more people than the next most heinous genocide perpetrator, the UK.

"Indigenous people north and south were displaced, died of disease, and were killed by Europeans through slavery, rape, and war. In 1491, about 145 million people lived in the western hemisphere. By 1691, the population of indigenous Americans had declined by 90–95 percent, or by around 130 million people."

+ ~130 million American Indians;
+ indeterminate number of American civilians and > 800,000 military personnel during the civil war;
+ ~1 million Japanese civilians by nuclear weapons;
+ > 1 million Germans after WW2, POWs and civilians;
+ indeterminate number of Japanese POWs and civilians after WW2 Japanese surrender;
+ ~3 million Koreans;
+ ~3 million South-East Asians;
+ indeterminate number of Serbian civilians;
+ > 1 million Iraqis;
+ indeterminate number of other Arabs.
What happened to the indigenous people's of what is now the United States also happened to the people's of all of North and South America, as well Australia and New Zealand. Their losses of population and land are nothing to be proud of, but they were inevitable once the rest of the world was discovered by Europeans.

As a nation, our darkest days were the Civil War where we turned our guns upon each other. At a terrible cost, the Union was preserved because of that war.

Aside from the wars against the indigenous people inhabiting what is now the United States, and aside from the Civil War, America's wars have been against an assortment of dictators going by various names - King, Emperor, Fuhrer, Chairman, Mullah, etc - absolute rulers.

In retrospect, some of the wars were ill-fated or ill-advised, yes.

But the bigger picture is that the U.S. fought for its independence. Afterwards, we were a weak, struggling nation. About 30 years later, we were barely able to defend against the British in the War of 1812. We almost lost that war. But we won, and the nation expanded and grew. In the 20th Century we fought on the side of allies in WW1 and we fought in our own defense and with our allies in WW2. The U.S. would then become an economic and military superpower. We fought against the spread of communism with some success and failure. And in the modern era we have fought against Islamic terrorists. Generally, we have fought to defend ourselves or to free other people from totalitarianism. We tend to leave democracies behind in our wake. We tend to leave countries to find their own destiny, for better or worse, not to conquer.

And so, I honor our fallen and our veterans. I honor them for their courage, and patriotism, and their valor in battle. I honor those who have struggled in the aftermath of war to move forward in a positive direction.

On this day, I will just think of those soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines who stood up for our country, whether it was in war or in peace time. This is their day to be thought of and appreciated for their service.

Seth 🇺🇸
 

Aussie

Ima da Sheriff
Staff member
Why are living not honored? They are the winners.

Remembrance days should also honor those who opposed war.
I think it does. My Mob are Soldiers but all they ever said was that they did their job.
 

MilesAway

Bongalong
Reading some diaries of Confederate women. One had to let go her “servants” or they left so she had to do the housework herself. She wrote that she felt so very tired all the time. She did NOT write that she wondered if her “servants” felt tired all the time doing the housework for her.
Did these servants get paid?
 

DreamRyderX

Active member
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That depends on one's experiences and perspective. Many of us think that the remembrance of those we lost reminds us of the true cost of war.



What happened to the indigenous people's of what is now the United States also happened to the people's of all of North and South America, as well Australia and New Zealand. Their losses of population and land are nothing to be proud of, but they were inevitable once the rest of the world was discovered by Europeans.

As a nation, our darkest days were the Civil War where we turned our guns upon each other. At a terrible cost, the Union was preserved because of that war.

Aside from the wars against the indigenous people inhabiting what is now the United States, and aside from the Civil War, America's wars have been against an assortment of dictators going by various names - King, Emperor, Fuhrer, Chairman, Mullah, etc - absolute rulers.

In retrospect, some of the wars were ill-fated or ill-advised, yes.

But the bigger picture is that the U.S. fought for its independence. Afterwards, we were a weak, struggling nation. About 30 years later, we were barely able to defend against the British in the War of 1812. We almost lost that war. But we won, and the nation expanded and grew. In the 20th Century we fought on the side of allies in WW1 and we fought in our own defense and with our allies in WW2. The U.S. would then become an economic and military superpower. We fought against the spread of communism with some success and failure. And in the modern era we have fought against Islamic terrorists. Generally, we have fought to defend ourselves or to free other people from totalitarianism. We tend to leave democracies behind in our wake. We tend to leave countries to find their own destiny, for better or worse, not to conquer.

And so, I honor our fallen and our veterans. I honor them for their courage, and patriotism, and their valor in battle. I honor those who have struggled in the aftermath of war to move forward in a positive direction.

On this day, I will just think of those soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines who stood up for our country, whether it was in war or in peace time. This is their day to be thought of and appreciated for their service.

Seth 🇺🇸
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God Bless the U.S. Constitution - God Bless America



Land of the FREE, Because of the BRAVE!

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