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mothra

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I hear that Netflix is pulling titles from its catalogue because of racial insensitivity , including Gone with The Wind.

Stuff like that really pisses me off. We cannot sanitise the past, furthermore, seeking to do so would absolutely leave us open for repetition.

As a woman, loads of stuff, even as recently as the 90s is riddled with offense but i just note it and move on. There's no good reason to pretend that society has always been conscientious. In fact, the converse is certainly true.
 

mothra

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I've never sat down and watched that movie in full. I've seen bits of it now and again, but i find that every time I try to watch it I got bored with it pretty quickly

I'm with Greg, it's not great. And so very long.
 

DonDeeHippy

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Stuff like that really pisses me off. We cannot sanitise the past, furthermore, seeking to do so would absolutely leave us open for repetition.

As a woman, loads of stuff, even as recently as the 90s is riddled with offense but i just note it and move on. There's no good reason to pretend that society has always been conscientious. In fact, the converse is certainly true.
If I remember right Gone with the wind was the first movie to win a academy award for a black actor, for best supporting actor, I think woopy goldberg was second with Ghost..
Black lives matter Netflix
 

greggerypeccary

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If I remember right Gone with the wind was the first movie to win a academy award for a black actor, for best supporting actor, I think woopy goldberg was second with Ghost..
Black lives matter Netflix
And if I remember correctly, the black actress from GWTW wasn't allowed to sit with the white actors at the Academy Awards ceremony.

She was made to sit at the back of the room.

And, she wasn't invited to the movie's premiere.
 

mothra

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I highly recommend 13th on Netflix.

A frightening look into the incarceration rate of black and brown people in the US.
 

Lols

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It's a slippery slope.

What if they start banning movies that show Jewish people treated badly?

Or animals, or women, or children, etc.
It’s movies made in eras that influenced the way movies were to be made, what the attitudes were then.
Remove that and we remove a past for future gens to have a understanding of where we came from, what shaped peoples lives, movies, songs etc.
I recall a war movie they banned, a true story of 5 sons from the same family that went to war together and all died, only one daughter remained.
Very powerful and sad, but nope, not allowed to show it anymore.
But what was learnt from that tragedy was that rules in military had changed, to never let that happen again, if siblings go to war, yet not together.
So there are lessons learnt from movies of past, censuring or stopping their exposure is so wrong. Are we heading towards such a sterile future?
 

greggerypeccary

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I've just heard that the BBC has removed the Fawlty Towers 'Don't mention the war' episode from their play list.

This is really getting ridiculous.
 

Lols

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Stuff like that really pisses me off. We cannot sanitise the past, furthermore, seeking to do so would absolutely leave us open for repetition.

As a woman, loads of stuff, even as recently as the 90s is riddled with offense but i just note it and move on. There's no good reason to pretend that society has always been conscientious. In fact, the converse is certainly true.
I do agree. If we don’t learn from our past....etc
Now it’s Statues getting the pull down that represented past ... wrongs in our eyes today, but what seemed normal back then....it’s history, even today, young people don’t know who Hitler is.
How can our future generations know where we came from, the fights, the rights, the wrongs, if we delete it?
Even with statues, put a historical plate of what achievements but also how it went about, no matter how brutal.
We can’t just wipe the icky bits of history and make it all look like a bed of roses, because it was not!!
And now, Gone with the wind? You should see the huge prices those dvds are fetching on eBay!
I have a gone with the wind cookbook.🤗
Where is it now? Somewhere....in this house!
 

mothra

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I've just heard that the BBC has removed the Fawlty Towers 'Don't mention the war' episode from their play list.

This is really getting ridiculous.
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That's just crazy. Basil comes across as an insensitive idiot in that episode. They were lampooning that kind of racism.

And i't fucking hilarious.
 

mothra

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Just finished watching The Borgias on Stan. Anyone who likes Game Of Thrones will love this. Excellent viewing.

As for movies, SBS on Demand, The Hunt. An absolutely outstanding move. An incredibly important tale for the ages. Highly, highly recommend.
 

DreamRyderX

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It’s movies made in eras that influenced the way movies were to be made, what the attitudes were then.
Remove that and we remove a past for future gens to have a understanding of where we came from, what shaped peoples lives, movies, songs etc.
I recall a war movie they banned, a true story of 5 sons from the same family that went to war together and all died, only one daughter remained.
Very powerful and sad, but nope, not allowed to show it anymore.
But what was learnt from that tragedy was that rules in military had changed, to never let that happen again, if siblings go to war, yet not together.
So there are lessons learnt from movies of past, censuring or stopping their exposure is so wrong. Are we heading towards such a sterile future?
@Lols

I believe you were talking about the Sullivans......AKA.....the Fighting Sullivans which was a 1944 movie. If it is this movie you are speaking of, you were mistaken. It has never been banned, nor is it now banned in the USA, or anywhere else for that matter.


The lives of a close-knit group of brothers growing up in Iowa during the days of the Great Depression and of World War II and their eventual deaths in action in the Pacific theater are chronicled in this film based on a true story.........

It's a gripping TRUE story, & the only confusion with any kind of banning of this fine movie of the day might evolve around how it heart-wrenchingly affected the viewing audiences because many were living the grief of lost & missing loved ones in WWII ..... the movie was made during the war when the outcome was still in doubt, 20th Century Fox Studios withdrew it voluntarily from the screen for a short period of time, but it was subsequently re-released.

That said I completely agree that censuring or stopping our exposure to things that may be hurtful is so very wrong. Censorship is diametrically opposed to our most cherished human Right, the Right of Free Speech, which should not only protect the speech we love & enjoy, but the speech we despise & hate as well........no matter how disturbing or hurtful it may be.



The Full Movie

 
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Lols

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I will view that later, but maybe I used the wrong word aka banned,
I think because it was such a powerfully sad movie of true events, that there was avoidance to play it again.
 

mothra

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Thje Millenium Trilogy ... that is 'The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo'. 'The Girl Who Played With Fire', and 'The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest' have just been uploaded to Stan. Original Swedish versions.

If you haven't seen these, i cannot recommend them highly enough. Be warned though, not for the faint hearted. They're highly distressing in parts.

Watched the first one again last night. It's just so brilliant. Top shelf cinema.
 

greggerypeccary

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Thje Millenium Trilogy ... that is 'The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo'. 'The Girl Who Played With Fire', and 'The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest' have just been uploaded to Stan. Original Swedish versions.

If you haven't seen these, i cannot recommend them highly enough. Be warned though, not for the faint hearted. They're highly distressing in parts.

Watched the first one again last night. It's just so brilliant. Top shelf cinema.
Yes, I noticed that last night when I was flicking through Netflix.

The English versions are there too, but I gather the Swedish ones are better.

I might binge those this weekend.
 
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