Record warm Arctic

HBS Guy

Head Honcho
Staff member
Because the ice is so thin, because the refreeze is very slow with some melting still happening:

"The autumn storms that regularly occur in the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas are elevating the sea state now, and will continue so into the future, simply because it is increasingly likely that the storms will occur over larger open water areas that persist longer into autumn. It is yet to be determined if the higher sea states will in turn feed back to the large-scale evolution of the sea ice. The increasing sea state may affect not only the ice cover development, but also wave forcing in the coastal zone. Either way, the increasing sea states may alter air-sea fluxes and associated ecosystem processes. It is possible that the increasing sea state may play an important role in modulating the presumed changes in air-sea fluxes and upper ocean properties that are occurring, and in turn may modulate the response of sea ice to climate change."
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,3299.550.html

So the storms that happen in the fall in the Arctic are now blowing across open water waves will form, This may break up what ice has formed.
 

pinkeye

Wonder woman
well kiddies all the stats in the world mean nothing, 'cos we've done NOTHING to change. ( YOU, WE = HUMANS)

Hey Antarctica will be green in the next few decades. !! :roll

Sadly, not only will we suffer hugely, BUT WE will kill off so many more species than we have already in our reign on Earth, that we have no redemption.

Doesn't matter now. we have shat in our own nest, and poisoned life on Earth. WE won't SUFFER the worst... WE just caused it. Our children and grand children will suffer. And every single living thing on Earth.

It can seem quite an intellectual project, to discuss these things, in a disinterested mode, but your science, altho no doubt quite relevant, DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE.

You can post all the comparative statistics, projections, scientific papers .. you like, and even try for denial (like here in Australia....) but the SONG remains the same.

We are way past critical mass..... nothing good to follow.

Pretty sad don't you think.. that the huge pressure of our unlimited fecundity and drive for more and more, will likely kill us all in time .. and most of our fellow creatures on the Earth. ?
 

MilesAway

Bongalong
well kiddies all the stats in the world mean nothing, 'cos we've done NOTHING to change. ( YOU, WE = HUMANS)

Hey Antarctica will be green in the next few decades. !! :roll

Sadly, not only will we suffer hugely, BUT WE will kill off so many more species than we have already in our reign on Earth, that we have no redemption.

Doesn't matter now. we have shat in our own nest, and poisoned life on Earth. WE won't SUFFER the worst... WE just caused it. Our children and grand children will suffer. And every single living thing on Earth.

It can seem quite an intellectual project, to discuss these things, in a disinterested mode, but your science, altho no doubt quite relevant, DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE.

You can post all the comparative statistics, projections, scientific papers .. you like, and even try for denial (like here in Australia....) but the SONG remains the same.

We are way past critical mass..... nothing good to follow.

Pretty sad don't you think.. that the huge pressure of our unlimited fecundity and drive for more and more, will likely kill us all in time .. and most of our fellow creatures on the Earth. ?
Antarctica ain't turning green until techtonic plates start moving.
 
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