Goodbye Donald Trump

DreamRyderX

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Gweggy, will you answer this question I simply posed to you in your other thread you just opened......it's just a simple YES or NO question:


Now that Trump was found NOT GUILTY for the SECOND TIME.....which means Trump is TWO for TWO...........The DEMS could not prove their case......again.....for THE SECOND TIME IN TWO ATTEMPTS!!!...................

So can Trump, Gweggy, can Trump run for President again if he so pleased?

Not that he will definitely win if he did......that's not the question Gweggy......

BUT, CAN TRUMP RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN 2024 if he felt like it?
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HBS Guy

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Nothing to do with proof, to do with party affiliation and fear of being dumped at the next primaries.
 

greggerypeccary

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Nothing to do with proof, to do with party affiliation and fear of being dumped at the next primaries.
Indeed.

We all saw the proof - he's guilty. That's not even in doubt.

Moreover, a majority of the Senate voted to convict him.

The Republicans were never going to come to the party though - they're all gutless pieces of shit.
 

DreamRyderX

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Indeed.

We all saw the proof - he's guilty. That's not even in doubt.

Moreover, a majority of the Senate voted to convict him.

The Republicans were never going to come to the party though - they're all gutless pieces of shit.
Again.......the 2/3rds. required majority was not attained......therefore the Political Solution the demon-RATS drove for FAILED.....NOT GUILTY was the outcome.........It's called Politics Gweggy..........Pure Politics determined the decision, & that is how the process was intended....to have a Political outcome.

 

greggerypeccary

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Again.......the 2/3rds. required majority was not attained......therefore the Political Solution the demon-RATS drove for FAILED.....NOT GUILTY was the outcome.........It's called Politics Gweggy..........Pure Politics determined the decision, & that is how the process was intended....to have a Political outcome.
The majority of the Senate says he's guilty.

And Mitch says he did it.

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Auggie

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Again.......the 2/3rds. required majority was not attained......therefore the Political Solution the demon-RATS drove for FAILED.....NOT GUILTY was the outcome.........It's called Politics Gweggy..........Pure Politics determined the decision, & that is how the process was intended....to have a Political outcome.
I wonder if a secret vote was allowed whether an additional 10 republi-CONS would've voted to convict him?
 

SethBullock

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I wonder if a secret vote was allowed whether an additional 10 republi-CONS would've voted to convict him?
Or if some Democrats would have voted not to. Probably better that they go on record. They are our representatives after all.
 

Auggie

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Or if some Democrats would have voted not to. Probably better that they go on record. They are our representatives after all.
The democrats would've voted in favour anyway - the real question is how much influence Trump still has over the republican party notwithstanding that he is no longer president and his controversial presidency.
 

Auggie

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The majority of the Senate says he's guilty.

As does the majority of the world.
Unfortunately, that doesn't matter in impeachment terms.

And, it doesn't matter even more if they're not willing to pursue the 14th amendment option, which would only require a majority in both houses.
 

SethBullock

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The democrats would've voted in favour anyway - the real question is how much influence Trump still has over the republican party notwithstanding that he is no longer president and his controversial presidency.
That's the thing about a secret vote. You think all the Dems would vote the same, but you couldn't be sure.
 

Auggie

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That's the thing about a secret vote. You think all the Dems would vote the same, but you couldn't be sure.
Possibly, but what do you think about Trump's continuing influence in the republican party? Are future republican lawmakers going to be influenced by Trumpism?

What will be the legacy of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt? (Who would be spinning in their graves by the way)?
 

SethBullock

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Possibly, but what do you think about Trump's continuing influence in the republican party? Are future republican lawmakers going to be influenced by Trumpism?

What will be the legacy of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt? (Who would be spinning in their graves by the way)?
Auggie, that depends on what you mean by Trumpism.

If you mean his personal style, no, they will not be influenced by it. I don't think we are going to see Republicans emulating it.

If you mean his policy positions, those are still very popular among many people, and I don't see them losing favor among rank and file Republicans any time soon. A wise Republican politician would adopt those positions for the most part, but not Trump's style and behavior. I think a successful formula would be those policy positions in a Ronald Reaganesque package.
 

greggerypeccary

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Auggie, that depends on what you mean by Trumpism.

If you mean his personal style, no, they will not be influenced by it. I don't think we are going to see Republicans emulating it.

If you mean his policy positions, those are still very popular among many people, and I don't see them losing favor among rank and file Republicans any time soon. A wise Republican politician would adopt those positions for the most part, but not Trump's style and behavior. I think a successful formula would be those policy positions in a Ronald Reaganesque package.
Policies such as, taking no action against deadly pandemics and continually lying to the public about the virus?
 

Auggie

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Auggie, that depends on what you mean by Trumpism.

If you mean his personal style, no, they will not be influenced by it. I don't think we are going to see Republicans emulating it.

If you mean his policy positions, those are still very popular among many people, and I don't see them losing favor among rank and file Republicans any time soon. A wise Republican politician would adopt those positions for the most part, but not Trump's style and behavior. I think a successful formula would be those policy positions in a Ronald Reaganesque package.
What positions are those? Tax cuts for the 1%?

And, as far as Reagan is concerned, he destroyed the American working class.
 

johnsmith

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The DEMS could not prove their case......again.....for THE SECOND TIME IN TWO ATTEMPTS!!!.............. ..

It was never about proving their case ... they could have had a blanket admission from trump and most would have still aquitted him. Most of them had made up their mind, and said so, before the case even began. This vote was about republicans trying to save their own arses over doing their duty to protect the constitution.
 

johnsmith

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the real question is how much influence Trump still has over the republican party
not so much trump ... but his fans. They have been ruthless in their actions against any republicans who spoke out against trump. In the worst cases there have even been threats of violence. Most republicans are worried that if they voted guilty, they would not have been 'preselected' (the American equivalent) the next time around
 

SethBullock

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why? this thread was never about the impeachment trial.
Because it's served its purpose. I started it to explain my loss of support for Trump and why Trump had to go. Now, the impeachment trial is over, Trump is out of office, and we have a new president. It's time to move on. Everyone is still perfectly free to discuss the impeachment trial on the new thread I started or to start a new thread on anything "Trump" they want.
 

SethBullock

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What positions are those? Tax cuts for the 1%?

And, as far as Reagan is concerned, he destroyed the American working class.
But Reagan was likable, had a good sense of humor, affable, collegial. His personality was nothing like Trump's, and that's all I meant. You could insert a lot of different names to make the same point.
 
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