Covid-19 Revisit

johnsmith

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Whats so baffling about that?

If you stuggle to understand that what hope have you got of understanding covid ?
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Whats so baffling about that?

If you stuggle to understand that what hope have you got of understanding covid ?
What? Are you still misrepresenting my words again with this silly straw man? Who said that I was baffled by this nonsense? I was speaking about you, NOT me. I guess I'm not the only one with his head buried up his ass. If you think that this picture IS far too cryptic for me to understand, then I am baffled.

Since you can't/won't answer my questions regarding Cov-19, it is you that don't have a clue about Cov-19. Here's another question for you to avoid. "Just how lethal is this new strain of the virus?".

I think that it is best, that you stick with communicating using only pictures. At least it's creative, and gives me a good laugh. Just like most things out of your mouth.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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I'm not misrepresenting anything

Of course you are. Hence why you never explain why you are NOT misrepresenting my comments. Even when I quote your own words back to you. Or ask you questions regarding why I feel that you are. Simply saying that I'm not, without any explanations, is the same response one would expected from children("I didn't do it"). Not from adults. But, then I'm not you. I still believe in the importance of being intellectually honest.

Rather than waste my time re-stating what others can see as obvious, what dismissive rationale can you create for this small bit of evidence that is actually occurring in the US?

 

johnsmith

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Hence why you never explain why you are NOT misrepresenting my comments.
it's not up to me to explain why I'm not doing something I'm not doing. If that was the case I could be here for a year explaining why I'm not doing everything I'm not doing. It's up to you, who claims i am misrepresenting you, to show me how.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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it's not up to me to explain why I'm not doing something I'm not doing. If that was the case I could be here for a year explaining why I'm not doing everything I'm not doing. It's up to you, who claims i am misrepresenting you, to show me how.
I did!

But exactly, how do I do this without asking you questions about your comments? Do you think that you can say whatever you want, and not be questioned? Especially, when you are just being insulting. Anyway, I think you are far too insecure to ever admit that you may be wrong. You are certainly not well informed. As I have said before, you are only right, because you say you are right. And, the truth is whatever you say it is, because you say it is.

Providing real evidence(like the video), facts, your own quotes, and data, is just a waste of time for close-minded egotists. They will always be dismissed as conspiracies, lies, or just plain wrong, and without any explanation. It would be like trying to convince a person claiming to be the real Napoleon, that he isn't. A bloody waste of time.

Maybe you don't see it, but other may. The truth will always rise to the surface, no matter how many times you deny it. So again, how do I prove my concerns, if you refuse to answer my questions?

My questions again? Or, maybe a comment on the video? Or, maybe you should just stick to posting pictures?
 
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DonDeeHippy

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Should we also just ignore these facts about this new strain, by the experts? Or, does the truth even matter anymore?

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/br...m/news-story/7dfd1b9f34d110c06d56f8de41de0ccc
Professor Collignon said recent outbreaks in Sydney and Melbourne highlighted how it was possible to bring the virus under control without restricting people.

“It almost says we don’t have faith in our contact tracing system.”
“It’s in 30 or 40 countries but it hasn’t become the predominant strain in many of those,”

So Sydney didn't lockdown North beaches, Victoria didn't close it's borders, Melbourne never locked down.....

Did Sydney or Melbourne have the new strain from England infect a citizen that went around the community for 5 days infected before it was picked up ?????

So if it didn't become predominate in many countries , how many is not many......
thankful it isn't predominate here......

It sounds like a hack job ......Although "The Australian" have never done that so I don't know why I'm suspicious...... After all QLD is run by Labor and Mordoch's press NEVER puts them In a bad light :ROFL1 :ROFL1 :ROFL1 :ROFL1 :ROFL1 :ROFL1
 

Shellandshilo1956

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no you didn't. All you did was claim that I am misrepresenting you

Exactly what I expected you would say. Did you even read past the first two words? Now back to my questions that would prove my claims. Maybe if you can keep avoiding answering my questions with this distraction nonsense, you can keep claiming that you are right? Sounds like a plan to me. If I were you, I would also keep avoiding answering my questions truthfully and honestly. Image is everything, right?

Like I've said before, you can't convince someone who thinks he's Napoleon, that he isn't. Or, an egotist that he is wrong. Please stick to pictures. At least your picture responses are not so sad and pathetic.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Professor Collignon said recent outbreaks in Sydney and Melbourne highlighted how it was possible to bring the virus under control without restricting people.
Sheep are not interested in scientific facts. They are only interested in the best well-acted boob-tube facts.

So Sydney didn't lockdown North beaches, Victoria didn't close it's borders, Melbourne never locked down.....

Did Sydney or Melbourne have the new strain from England infect a citizen that went around the community for 5 days infected before it was picked up ?????
I really don't care what Sydney, Victoria, or Melbourne does regarding this virus. Or, what they do about this ONE SINGLE new strain of virus. Or, even what this new strain of virus does in other countries. It is totally irrelevant to me. Especially since I don't live there. The Queensland government simply reacted to a 50% less lethal, short-lived, non-predominate, but more virulent strain, in the same way that a 10yo would. Infer, and sensationalize the urgency, make 5M people wear useless masks everywhere, and to stay in their homes for 3 days. Just like in the movies. It does this because it now can. Maybe we should start making all the 81K live births in Australia wear mask? They, and their parents are obviously a real risk to the safety of healthcare workers. What are the safety protocols for Australia's 45K prison population?

We have now given these political children direct power over the masses. They have turned a proud nation of proud honest hard-working people, into a nation of masketeers, and obedient puppets. A nation where our individual freedoms, have now become just a privilege. And, now these same freedoms, can be given and taken away, BY THE PRIVILEDGED. And, the more we keep doing what we are told, the harder it will be to stop.

It sounds like a hack job ......Although "The Australian" have never done that so I don't know why I'm suspicious...... After all QLD is run by Labor and Mordoch's press NEVER puts them In a bad light
Really, you are now blaming a paper, a party ideology, and a media mogul, for the ignorance of close-minded people? That is just plain desperate. People basically will believe only what they want to believe.
 

DonDeeHippy

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Sheep are not interested in scientific facts. They are only interested in the best well-acted boob-tube facts.



I really don't care what Sydney, Victoria, or Melbourne does regarding this virus. Or, what they do about this ONE SINGLE new strain of virus. Or, even what this new strain of virus does in other countries. It is totally irrelevant to me. Especially since I don't live there. The Queensland government simply reacted to a 50% less lethal, short-lived, non-predominate, but more virulent strain, in the same way that a 10yo would. Infer, and sensationalize the urgency, make 5M people wear useless masks everywhere, and to stay in their homes for 3 days. Just like in the movies. It does this because it now can. Maybe we should start making all the 81K live births in Australia wear mask? They, and their parents are obviously a real risk to the safety of healthcare workers. What are the safety protocols for Australia's 45K prison population?

We have now given these political children direct power over the masses. They have turned a proud nation of proud honest hard-working people, into a nation of masketeers, and obedient puppets. A nation where our individual freedoms, have now become just a privilege. And, now these same freedoms, can be given and taken away, BY THE PRIVILEDGED. And, the more we keep doing what we are told, the harder it will be to stop.



Really, you are now blaming a paper, a party ideology, and a media mogul, for the ignorance of close-minded people? That is just plain desperate. People basically will believe only what they want to believe.
so basicaly you found a expert that agree's with you on one thing.... Are you also going to take his advice on locking down in general, like when Victoria did on the second outbreak where he was asking for stricter measures......
Will you follow your own advice and listen to this expert...

He said people needed to keep abiding by social distancing measures and wearing face masks or face shields.

I believe NSW has acted quickly in this second wave and by locking down north beaches that has decreased the chances substantially of further spread.

“We will have to wait over the next few days to see what the numbers do, but at the moment I'm optimistic this is under control it and it's not going to spread widely through Sydney and the rest of the state like it did in Melbourne.”



Australian National University’s Professor Peter Collignon has told a Senate inquiry the virus will remain a problem for at least two years.

“We’re going to have to keep up the things that we know work, which is predominantly keeping a physical distance, washing your hands and people who are sick staying away from others,” he said on Thursday.


Well Shell I'm glad you have been taken so much by this expert and I hope you follow his advice and stop believing all the unscientific stuff ........

Should we also just ignore these facts about this new strain, by the experts? Or, does the truth even matter anymore?
Will you follow your own advice and listen to this expert ?????????
 
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Shellandshilo1956

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so basicaly you found a expert that agree's with you on one thing.... Are you also going to take his advice on locking down in general, like when Victoria did on the second outbreak where he was asking for stricter measures......
Will you follow your own advice and listen to this expert...
I don't really care if the information I receive, is from a credentialed expert, or from the Disney channel. The source is not important. It is the message. Is the message logical, intuitive, practical, and supported by objective scientific facts? Are there any direct causal links established? Does it really matter if Mickey Mouse tells you to wash your hands and brush your teeth? Or must it be a leading oral hygienist?

Secondly, you can certainly agree with a someone on one thing, and NOT agree with them on everything. It is certainly not a good idea to believe everything anyone says. Nobody can always be right, or always be wrong. Unless he/she/it is a God, their opinions are only subjective. But, their facts are not.

I do not agree with many of his solutions. Designing virus-proof buildings and public toilets, forcing social distancing, closing down businesses and jobs, and forcing over 90% of the population, who are NOT even infected, to wear masks. This may seem rational to you, but it is just not practical to me. These solutions cause more problems than the disease itself. Of course, none of these lockdown restrictions will affect him. Or, any of the politician that don't mind making the tough decisions, that don't affect themselves.

Well Shell I'm glad you have been taken so much by this expert and I hope you follow his advice and stop believing all the unscientific stuff ........
I follow the facts, and I don't which facts to follow. Why isn't he telling the public about how our immune system will eventually give us immunity from this virus? Or, will we all just die eventually from this virus? Fortunately, the facts/data that you choose to ignore, proves the former. And, since you avoid my questions, keep depositing your biased half-truths, keep ignoring perspective and context, you are simply contributing to the fear-mongering campaign that this government supports. How many dissenting views have you noticed on the media outlets? By focusing only on the numbers of infections, and the numbers of deaths, and NOT on the numbers of recoveries, or the demographics and underlying causes of those deaths, it is YOUR unscientific understanding that is totally skewed.

You keep spewing out stats of the number of people who are infected. But these are NOT the actual numbers are they? You ignore the difference between, how many victims have died because of this virus, or just with this virus. You ignore those who have recovered, and those who will recover. You ignore why ONE case of a 50% less lethal and time-specific strain, would justify the need for a 3 day total lockdown. You ignore the scientific fact that this virus is 3 times smaller than the smallest pores on any mask(or the infection rate among healthcare professionals). Or, that the eyes, hears, or poorly fitting masks, makes wearing masks useless. You ignore why it is impossible to monitor and enforce the distancing of 26M people. You ignore that we should be focusing our resources on those who are most vulnerable to dying from this virus, not on those who are not.

Since the only scientific evidence you can provide, is the opinions of your selected experts, or the self-serving articles that you can cut copy or past. I think that it is you who must rely on "unscientific stuff" to support your skewed narrative.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Well done Shell ... acknowledging your problem is the first step. At least you realise what the problem is ... now for step 2 .. let me know when you're ready for it

Still avoiding, and still more distractions. But when asked to defend your claims, it's "Run like the wind, bullseye.".

News flash genius ... we'd already noticed
You just keep telling yourself this. If you keep telling yourself a lie, it will only become the truth to you. But it will still be a lie to everyone else.

Did you happen to read the rest of my post for clarity? Or, did you just take one sentence, out of context, to imply that I ignore credentialed experts, and believe only the Disney channel. But of course, you don't misrepresent my words, do you? Because you say you don't, no matter how many times it is clearly pointed out to you?

Please stick with using pictures. They are at least more creative, and less boring.
 
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