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Covid-19 Revisit


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Wholeheartedly agree with you., BUT isn't it now so obsolete there is no chance of value for the taxpayer money that was wasted.?
OK there never was a chance... No one wanted to hear it. :dupurple bounce:groan


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HAVE to do it, Pinky. The Telstra copper was rotten when they started the FTTN rubbish, it has not gotten better since. They are running out new copper so the problem will never go away.

If I was a Labor Govt I would give the NBN Co to the Future Fund with a mandate to roll out 1Gbps both ways FTTH. I would charge the FF the $29B the govt had to “loan” it because no private lender would touch the rubbish with a barge pole.

ATM they are just not making enough revenue to pay their way. This is because those on FTTN take up only low speed services, 20:5 the highest common speed selected because they know the copper cannot provide reliably the faster services and why pay for what you cannot get? So the Lib copper NBN mess is stuffed every which way.


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the copper is still rotting.
the guy that did the install at the complex I used to manage told me his next job was to replace coax he'd installed only 6 months earlier ... because it was on beach front property, it corrodes terribly and needs to keep getting replaced, especially so on the connections.


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Yup. We have more people on wireless internet than any other country—5G will increase that even more, making the NBN Co’s chances of generating enough income a pipe dream.

STOP running out copper you UTTER MORONS! Run out fibre instead. STOP using microwave backhaul to your oversubscribed towers, connect them back to the net with fibre!


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Folk medicines and herbal products have been used for millennia to combat a whole range of ailments, at times to the chagrin of modern scientists who have struggled to explain their medicinal benefits.

However, a recent study by a group of Chemical and Biomlolecular Engineering researchers from the University of Sydney's Faculty of Engineering and IT has determined exactly how a popular ancient remedy, the elderberry fruit, can help the fight against influenza.
Conducted by Professor Fariba Deghani, Dr Golnoosh Torabian and Dr Peter Valtchev as part of the ARC Training Centre for the Australian Food Processing Industry that was established in the Faculty of Engineering and IT, the study showed that compounds from elderberries can directly inhibit the virus's entry and replication in human cells, and can help strengthen a person's immune response to the virus.
Although elderberry's flu-fighting properties have long been observed, the group performed a comprehensive examination of the mechanism by which phytochemicals from elderberries combat influenza infections.
"What our study has shown is that the common elderberry has a potent direct antiviral effect against the flu virus," said Dr Golnoosh Torabian.
"It inhibits the early stages of an infection by blocking key viral proteins responsible for both the viral attachment and entry into the host cells."
The researchers used commercially farmed elderberries which were turned into a juice serum and were applied to cells before, during and after they had been infected with the influenza virus.
The phytochemicals from the elderberry juice were shown to be effective at stopping the virus infecting the cells, however to the surprise of the researchers they were even more effective at inhibiting viral propagation at later stages of the influenza cycle when the cells had already been infected with the virus.
"This observation was quite surprising and rather significant because blocking the viral cycle at several stages has a higher chance of inhibiting the viral infection," explained Dr Peter Valtchev.
"In addition to that, we identified that the elderberry solution also stimulated the cells to release certain cytokines, which are chemical messengers that the immune system uses for communication between different cell types to coordinate a more efficient response against the invading pathogen," said Centre Director, Professor Fariba Deghani.
The team also found that the elderberry's antiviral activity can be attributed to its anthocyanidin compounds -- phytonutrients responsible for giving the fruit its vivid purple colouring.
Otherwise known as sambucus nigra, the black elderberry is a small, antioxidant rich fruit common to Europe and North America that is still commonly consumed as a jam or wine. For medicinal benefits, elderberry extract is available commercially in tablet or syrup form.

There you go. Bright colored fruits are the go!

This is an article from last year talking about the flu. Won’t hurt to buy a couple bottles of capsules in case COVID19 roars back into action.


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I'm surprised at how many are from Travelers....Definitely need to limit numbers and quarantine....