China grossly outperforming all developed countries in Covid prevention and treatment.
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DonDeeHippy
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Yup China have been preventing the "Trump Flu" very well after the initial shock......
Squire
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China could take a major leap in GDP growth compared to the USA in 2020-21.
US GDP is likely to be down > 10% from ~19.5 to 17.5 $Trillion while the Chinese economy is likely to be up 6% from 12.5 to 13.25 $Trillion positioning China to exceed US GDP in 10 years or less.
The worst is yet to come in economic effects in the USA due to the current growth of the rate of spread of Covid.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...demand-u-s-tensions-raise-risks-idUSKCN24H0AM
US GDP is likely to be down > 10% from ~19.5 to 17.5 $Trillion while the Chinese economy is likely to be up 6% from 12.5 to 13.25 $Trillion positioning China to exceed US GDP in 10 years or less.
The worst is yet to come in economic effects in the USA due to the current growth of the rate of spread of Covid.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...demand-u-s-tensions-raise-risks-idUSKCN24H0AM
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If you actually believe any CCP data you're a fool. Furthermore, Chinese economic figures, even if true are powered by salve labour (literally Uyghur slaves) and even their voluntary workers are forced into abhorrent conditions. Anti-suicide nets around factories???
I'm very suspicious of anyone who crows about China's supremacy over the west.
I'm very suspicious of anyone who crows about China's supremacy over the west.
DonDeeHippy
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If China where fudging their infection and death numbers of the Trump Flu , We would find out, I bet the whole USA intelligence agency has been madly scrambling in China for the last 9 months to find the evidence to back Trumps mad ravings......
Face it China and really most of South East Asia have been keeping the Trump Flu under control very well....
They have faced bad Virus scares in recent history and respond well to containing these Viruses...
Squire
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Australian skeptics are dogmatized by anti-China propaganda.
In regard to the Uyghur situation, the Uyghurs have been responsible for many deaths from terrorism in China.
While the Chinese intern Uyghurs, reeducate them, and put them to work, the Americans kill any Muslims who oppose them.
This is internment by Americans:
In regard to the Uyghur situation, the Uyghurs have been responsible for many deaths from terrorism in China.
While the Chinese intern Uyghurs, reeducate them, and put them to work, the Americans kill any Muslims who oppose them.
This is internment by Americans:
DonDeeHippy
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Because Trump is solely responsible for the most infection and Deaths from Covid-19......and the idiot keeps calling it the Flu.....
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DonDeeHippy
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Nope just his handling of C-19
after 3 years he hit a problem he couldnt solve with giving money to big buisness or division (his 2 policies) and he failed miserably
Let's see if you can walk and chew gum.
Hate Trump all you like, and yes, he screwed up the Covid response. A strong and well-respected leader would have saved lives, some lives, but impossible to put a number on how many. There's also a whole lot of blame to go around. The initial response from the NY mayor and NY governor was appalling which brings us to our next point. Getting Americans to do anything (other than go to war) is like herding cats. American culture is so diverse you can hardly imagine it can be a country. I've spent about 11 years there, from Maine, Vermont to New Mexico and Texas. Compared to the USA, Australia is politically homogenous.
Next, we have the US health system. The best in the world if you have money and insurance and dysfunctional for the rest. Pre dates Trump, 8 years of Obama, Bush.....etc etc etc.
Until this cycle of ultra partisanship (which I blame both sides of politics for) cools down, pandemics will be hard to control.
Hate Trump all you like, and yes, he screwed up the Covid response. A strong and well-respected leader would have saved lives, some lives, but impossible to put a number on how many. There's also a whole lot of blame to go around. The initial response from the NY mayor and NY governor was appalling which brings us to our next point. Getting Americans to do anything (other than go to war) is like herding cats. American culture is so diverse you can hardly imagine it can be a country. I've spent about 11 years there, from Maine, Vermont to New Mexico and Texas. Compared to the USA, Australia is politically homogenous.
Next, we have the US health system. The best in the world if you have money and insurance and dysfunctional for the rest. Pre dates Trump, 8 years of Obama, Bush.....etc etc etc.
Until this cycle of ultra partisanship (which I blame both sides of politics for) cools down, pandemics will be hard to control.
As the President, he has a responsibility to the citizens of the USA to put aside party politics and put the health and lives of the USA's citizens first. Trump failed big time. Not only did he fail to put aside any party politics, he promoted division and even encouraged his supporters to ignore the medical experts.
Whilst it's all to easy to say 'both sides of politics do it', I cannot see any previous president, from either side of politics, fostering and encouraging such division whilst knowing the potential cost to lives. Many countries have party politics, many have diverse cultures,but NONE have failed with covid to the scale that the USA has. The blame has to rest on one man and one man only, that is the President of the day.
DonDeeHippy
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He also didn't give his people a choice but to go back to work.. he gave trillions to big business but gave a one off payment of $600 over 6 months ago now......(his other policy of giving to the corporations)
USA is the only country with continuous high infections now for 9 months with the last week by far the highest....
As for New York, they didn't even close the borders of the state, would of had Trump frothing at the mouth if they did.... you are right they are all mad that way in the USA, Trump is the one they voted for....
In the important time when Europe where starting to get infections Trump did nothing but say is was a Democratic hoax and one day it will all disappear.... The end of January after all the Major Airlines banned flights to China he banned travel to china.
He did nothing until the end of March and even then he was promising they would all be able to go to church for Easter.....
Instead of uniting the country he couldn't help himself and went out of his way to bad mouth Democratic States and encourage bad behavior of Republican States....(division)
Even then his every response was about how it effected HIM and his chance of being reelected, not concern for his people...This hasn't changed....
The Trump administration have completely ignored the Trump flu officially for the last 6 weeks because Pence is in charge and he was campaigning..... That's is part of Trump legacy.......They had a Million new cases in 9 days and did nothing, actually until Monday they still have done nothing .......
Think about New Zealand, is the PM getting the credit for how they handled the Virus ????
Why should USA be different
USA is the only country with continuous high infections now for 9 months with the last week by far the highest....
As for New York, they didn't even close the borders of the state, would of had Trump frothing at the mouth if they did.... you are right they are all mad that way in the USA, Trump is the one they voted for....
In the important time when Europe where starting to get infections Trump did nothing but say is was a Democratic hoax and one day it will all disappear.... The end of January after all the Major Airlines banned flights to China he banned travel to china.
He did nothing until the end of March and even then he was promising they would all be able to go to church for Easter.....
Instead of uniting the country he couldn't help himself and went out of his way to bad mouth Democratic States and encourage bad behavior of Republican States....(division)
Even then his every response was about how it effected HIM and his chance of being reelected, not concern for his people...This hasn't changed....
The Trump administration have completely ignored the Trump flu officially for the last 6 weeks because Pence is in charge and he was campaigning..... That's is part of Trump legacy.......They had a Million new cases in 9 days and did nothing, actually until Monday they still have done nothing .......
Think about New Zealand, is the PM getting the credit for how they handled the Virus ????
Why should USA be different
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Trump was trying to get china to agree to buy more US products, and acknowledging the china virus or closing the borders put that at risk. What he failed to understand was that doing nothing would lead to the same result. He'd hoped he'd be able to claim he had a deal with china ... that was more important to him than saving lives
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OH yeah.. SLAVES are at the base of chinese productivity. A bit like the US way back when. Not the whites, but the slaves made the US, just as they now power China. Sorry US, you can't have slaves anymore.
DonDeeHippy
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yeah when C-19 first started , Trump was still very pro China saying they had it all under control and what great leadership they had, when the deal went sour it became the China Flu and all the sudden they became the enemy...
DonDeeHippy
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Donald J. Trump
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European Countries are sadly getting clobbered by the China Virus. The Fake News does not like reporting this!
as long as fuckwit here calls it China virus. I'll call it Trump Flu.....
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4h
European Countries are sadly getting clobbered by the China Virus. The Fake News does not like reporting this!
as long as fuckwit here calls it China virus. I'll call it Trump Flu.....