Bye Bye Donald Trump

SethBullock

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don't get your knickers in a knot Seth ... there are no plans to send more troop.s it's just an option that is available to them if the need arises


you yanks started this war........ and our boys followed (actually, our SAS were the first ones in there ... providing intel to your guys so that they could invade with the least resistance)
I don't give a fuck, John. That was 18 fucking years ago.

You ready send your boys to Iraq?
 

johnsmith

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don't give a fuck, John. That was 18 fucking years ago.
welll you should give a fuck Seth. Wars aren't nice and tidy, nor do they work to your timeline. .. you want to start a war. then you deal with the results.

You ready send your boys to Iraq?
if they're silly enough to join the army then that's on them .In the meantime I'll do all I can to teach them that the army is the last organisation that they'd want to join .... unless they wish to be cannon fodder
 

SethBullock

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welll you should give a fuck Seth. Wars aren't nice and tidy, nor do they work to your timeline. .. you want to start a war. then you deal with the results.


if they're silly enough to join the army then that's on them .In the meantime I'll do all I can to teach them that the army is the last organisation that they'd want to join .... unless they wish to be cannon fodder
But Biden is "stately" and "sensible", according to people here.

Come on, pussies! Send your kids to that shithole! Man up!
 

SethBullock

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welll you should give a fuck Seth. Wars aren't nice and tidy, nor do they work to your timeline. .. you want to start a war. then you deal with the results.
Yeah, we started it. And Trump was reducing our presence there.

And now this dipshit wants to get back in deeper ... for fucking ever!
 

johnsmith

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Yeah, we started it. And Trump was reducing our presence there.

And now this dipshit wants to get back in deeper ... for fucking ever!
he doesn't want anything Seth, despite your hysteria ... it's merely an option that is being discussed.

and all trump did was what he did in the US with covid ... run away from the problem
 

SethBullock

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he doesn't want anything Seth, despite your hysteria ... it's merely an option that is being discussed.
Bullshit!

That's how it starts. There is no chance that these statements by the Pentagon were not cleared by the White House first.

Zero chance.
 

greggerypeccary

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The total number of US troops killed in the 20th century wars: 426,118.

That's WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam and the Gulf War.

Trump's apathy, ignorance, and total lack of action on COVID-19 has killed more than 500,000 Americans.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Bye Bye, Donald Trump ....


Biden’s Pentagon ‘Open’ To Increasing Troop Levels In Iraq



The Pentagon is reportedly open to the possibility of sending more American troops to Iraq in an expanded NATO training mission for Iraqi security forces.

Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin discussed the training mission with his NATO colleagues Thursday, according to CNN. Although an increase in troop levels is on the table, there are no imminent plans for it at the moment, Pentagon spokesperson John Kirby clarified Thursday night.

“The US is participating in the force generation process for NATO Mission Iraq and will contribute its fair share to this important expanded mission,” Pentagon spokesperson Jessica L. McNulty said to CNN. The aim of the mission is reportedly to support Iraqi forces in the fight to prevent ISIS from re-emerging as a substantial regional threat.

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Thursday that NATO’s presence for the mission would jump from about 500 personnel to around 4,000, CNN reported. Austin reportedly “welcomed the expanded role” of NATO in Iraq, and Stoltenberg stressed the importance of keeping ISIS in check. “ISIS is still there. ISIS still operates in Iraq, and we need to make sure that they’re not able to return,” Stoltenberg said.

Stoltenberg also added that the increase in NATO personnel in the country came at the request of the Iraqi government.

An increase in American involvement in Iraq would be a change in direction from policy under former President Donald Trump. Troop levels in the country fell to 2,500 by the end of Trump’s term. Before the transition to the Biden administration, Trump’s acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller said the troop reduction was a sign of success: “The drawdown of US force levels in Iraq is reflective of the increased capabilities of the Iraqi security forces. Our ability to reduce force levels is evidence of real progress.”


Reported by The Daily Caller


My reaction: Strike Fucking One!!

And THIS, folks, is why substance over style fucking matters.

Maybe Biden, who is who statesmanlike and sensible, can talk Australia into helping out in Iraq.

Come on, Australia! Send your boys!
Your Republi-CON-servative tunnel-vision is clearly showing here. It doesn't matter if there are 4,000 American troops, or 4,000 NATO troops from all over the world, there would still be 4,000 foreign troops occupying the sovereign nation of Iraq. You don't seem to get it.

The US is not welcome in Iraq. The US presence alone is an embarrassment to their culture, their religion, and in the region itself. US soldiers flaunt their excess of everything that the people there don't have(food, water, clothing, wealth, power, freedom, and technology). They demonize, vilify, and denigrate Iraq itself, its people, its culture, and even its religion. Soldiers, drones, bombs, kill people period. Neither can discern between what is in self-defense, what is just murder, who is a terrorists, who is an innocent civilian, or anything about what our in-country objectives and exit strategies are. They simply create more terrorists, more hatred, and more deaths.

Other than America, what rational country in the world would be willing to,

Commit their troops to die in a country that has done absolutely nothing to them?
Commit their troops to fight in a country indefinitely, with no clear objective, other than the attrition of body bags?
Commit troops to battle in an unwinnable war on terrorism, against an unbeatable enemy, and to create a more unstable world?
Commit troops to create more terrorists, every time they kill innocent men, women, and children as collateral damage.
Commit their troops to create the worst refugee crisis that the world has ever known.
Commit their troops to protect all the US DoD's military contracts, and the MIC. The longer the wars, the larger the profits. Remember, as weapons are used, they must be replaced.

I hope Australia would tell America, that they care more about lives, than they do about profits. You will never change peoples beliefs. Especially, when you are murdering their women and children, and shitting all over their beliefs and culture. Especially, while in their own backyard! Surely we have learned something from the Viet Nam war. In that case, America used fear to convinced a world that communism(which never existed) was going to spread all over the world. Now, it is using the fear of Terrorism to ignite another irrational fear.

Australia(or any country) would be a fool to risk the lives of any of its young men indefinitely, just to appear politically correct. America has not made a dint in the Taliban, ISIS, al Qaeda, Hezbollah, or any other terrorist organization in over 18 years. Just what does a combined NATO force hope to accomplish? Nothing except more body bags, and more wasted young lives.

Here is a novel idea. Bring all our troops home now. Then we arm everyone who believes we should kick-ass and take-names in Iraq and Afghanistan in fighting terrorists, and then ship their asses over to Iraq and Afghanistan to actually fight. I wonder how long that list would be?
 
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Shellandshilo1956

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His attacks on Micheal J Fox let me know enough, he was a piece of shit......
So true! And, his apology was even worse.



Yes, good riddance. He was just another republi-CON who got rich, by exploiting the hate, fear, racism, bigotry, and the ignorance of White America.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Maybe that's because you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Sorry, my understanding and opinion of your political ideology, does NOT require your understanding or your acceptance. I'm more interested in your comments on the rest of the post. Is there some error in my comments that tells you that I don't know what I'm talking about? If so, let's hear it.

Let's see if I get this right. We have been fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan for around 20 years(7,300 days). The death toll within these years averages 1 dead American soldier and 5 wounded American soldiers, EVERY DAY!! Here is more on the death toll that we have caused. After 20 years of anything, it's time to retire.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-people-have-been-killed-in-iraq-and-afghanistan?r=AU&IR=T

Also, was it ISIS/ISIL that attacked us on 9/11? Or, was it al Qaeda? If these groups want to control territories in Iraq and Syria, then what has that got to do with the US? Now we are talking about putting MORE US troops in Iraq. Including 3,500 NATO soldiers(US led). Really, even after 20 years? What is it you want? The carnage to continue indefinitely. More heart-broken families and loved ones, as the body-bags and wounded keep increasing? How many more civilians have to die? Or, can't you see past, "Must defend ourselves. US good, terrorist bad, must kill all terrorists"?

And you seriously expects any rational nation, to just send their young men and women off to fight in a war, that has nothing to do with them. In a country that has never attacked them. And, To knowing sacrifice the lives of their soldiers in an unwinnable, and unbeatable war indefinitely? Just to appear politically correct? Any nation willing to sacrifice their young men and women for the US, can only be characterized as "AMERICA'S BITCH". Australia is NOT to be outsourced!!
 

SethBullock

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@Shellandshilo1956 You misunderstood me. I’m not approving of this. I’m 100% against it. I want this idiot president to get our troops out of Iraq and Syria, not increase them and commit them to those countries forever. I’ve told you that before, so I’m surprised that you missed my meaning.
 

mothra

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that if you join the army you might get sent to a war zone and get shot or blown up?

absolutely I have an idea. What did YOU think soldiers do?

I think there are a number of reasons people go into he defence forces and i do believe that some are altruistic.

What horrified me was the push by the Bush administration to recruit for cannon fodder in high schools and shopping malls of severely disadvantaged areas, promising the world, avoiding the realities. That made me sick to my stomach.
 

johnsmith

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I think there are a number of reasons people go into he defence forces and i do believe that some are altruistic.

What horrified me was the push by the Bush administration to recruit for cannon fodder in high schools and shopping malls of severely disadvantaged areas, promising the world, avoiding the realities. That made me sick to my stomach.
yes, they believe all that glory and brotherhood crap and ignore the carnage and bullets .

Don't get me wrong, I have every respect for the sacrifice our soldiers make and I thank them for it..... just don't kid yourself that joining the army is a safe career choice
 
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