Australia’s Prime Minister Scott Morrison apologized to a former staffer for how her sexual assault complaint was handled

DonDeeHippy

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the govt. has a duty to all it's staff ... part of that duty includes making their staff aware of claims of sexual misconduct in the workplace. Failure to do so put other staff at risk that it might happen to them. If the victim doesn't want to proceed with charges thats her business and has nothing to do with the govt ensuring they provide a safe working environment for their staff.
do you name and shame a untried person ????
I guess it's the same answer, if rape is mentioned it has to be investigated, no backing out....
 

Auggie

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Birmingham said it was also important to examine what people should do if they had been informed of serious allegations, but victims chose not to pursue a police complaint.

“This is one of the significant tension points as to at what point the rights of individuals in making their decisions are respected versus the responsibility of others to try to pursue actions if they are not being pursued or undertaken by the individual,” Birmingham said.

The government are saying the same thing
Yes, and frankly it's a weasel way to absolve anybody of anything. He should've said that the government would actively report any serious sexual misconduct in government.
 

pinkeye

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so what is my agenda Pinky ?
You've said it all... your own words suffice to inform us all of your opinion.

How many times do you need to tell the same story. Enough already. I suggest YOU wait to see what happens instead of flapping your gums.
 

DonDeeHippy

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why? alleged rapists are named all the time. .. unless they're politicians. Guilt, or not, is determined in a court of law. Why do politicians and their staff get privileges not afforded to every other guy accused of wrongdoing?
Rubbish. .. the rules only apply to politicians
no need to name him. Just issue a warning about what has allegedly happened and suggest they avoid putting themselves in a position where it could happen to them
make up you mind John....
 
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DonDeeHippy

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How many times do you need to tell the same story. Enough already. I suggest YOU wait to see what happens instead of flapping your gums.
So far you have not talked about the case just Abused me... Silly thing....
 
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DonDeeHippy

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Yes, and frankly it's a weasel way to absolve anybody of anything. He should've said that the government would actively report any serious sexual misconduct in government.
if you where in charge how would of you dealt with this case ?
 

DonDeeHippy

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4 victims now? :headscratcher3

If true what sort of sleeze bag is this bloke
It's 3 unless another showed up last night... Still 3 or 4 to many....

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Fourth woman makes complaint about former staffer who allegedly raped Brittany Higgins - ABC News
Socialising after work in 2017 with colleagues at Canberra's Public Bar, the favoured drinking hole of the political class, the woman said she was startled when the man who would later be identified as the staffer who allegedly raped Ms Higgins reached his hand under the table and stroked her thigh.
 
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johnsmith

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make up you mind John....
about what? My first comment was to say that members of the general public are named. The second was to say that ONLY politicians are protected and the third was in response to your question of how ministers can make people aware of incidents without requiring them to name anyone if the victim says she's she doesn't want to go public. Three completely different scenarios Don
 

DonDeeHippy

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about what? My first comment was to say that members of the general public are named. The second was to say that ONLY politicians are protected and the third was in response to your question of how ministers can make people aware of incidents without requiring them to name anyone if the victim says she's she doesn't want to go public. Three completely different scenarios Don
the accused rapist is not a politician he is a advisor.....

really a warning there was a accused rape in parliament house everyone be careful out there... warning ??? what good would that do... I could see it doing a lot of harm with suspicion and gossip though.....
 

Auggie

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if you where in charge how would of you dealt with this case ?
If I were a Minister, and someone asked to me with the intention of discussing what happened to them, rather than just blowing them off and referring them to someone else, I'd actually meet with that person and talk to them about it.

What Simon Birmingham did to that other lady was completely unacceptable. He's trying to pay lip service and not piss off the party machinery.

All of these people, every single one of them, is putting the interests of the party before people. No one wants to do or say anything because they're afraid of losing votes.

The problem is they're applying 20th tactics to 21st issues - people today would actually respond well to politicians putting the interests of people over their own party.
 

DonDeeHippy

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This case the minister did have a face to face meeting with the victim and organized a meeting with the fed police so she could find out her options, so she did what you would of done..
 

johnsmith

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really a warning there was a accused rape in parliament house everyone be careful out there... warning ??? what good would that do... I could see it doing a lot of harm with suspicion and gossip though.....
It would have warned the women especially to be on the lookout for it .Other places of employment seem to make it work.
 

DonDeeHippy

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It would have warned the women especially to be on the lookout for it .Other places of employment seem to make it work.
Would be interesting to see if any studies have been done on this and if it works....Most big jobs I’ve been on any general safety measure and warnings have been noticeably ignored....
 

Auggie

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This case the minister did have a face to face meeting with the victim and organized a meeting with the fed police so she could find out her options, so she did what you would of done..
See, this is the thing: the reaction is always 'go to the police', 'go to the police'. Sometimes, a person may not want to go the police and seek out 'internal' processes first.

The other thing is that referring people to go to the police is actually a way to get rid of them because they know the person doesn't want to go to the police.
 
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