Australia’s Prime Minister Scott Morrison apologized to a former staffer for how her sexual assault complaint was handled

pinkeye

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She did lay charges then decided to drop them, no idea why..... If One of them was she was persuaded that her job was on the line, if this was so, the person or person responsible need to be fired and the book thrown at them, this is about the 3rd time I've stated this.....

Her fear of being fired isn't the same as being threatened to be fired, she also might of not wanted to go through with it because of personal toil, hell many reasons.... If you can read minds please help us out here....
You are a joke.
 

johnsmith

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didn't see that.. where did you get that info..
I was just this sudden problem for her. That’s what I felt like,’’ she said.

“I felt like they were ticking a box. That they had to have this conversation with me in order to say on the record ‘We told her she could go to the police’.

“But as soon as Linda Reynolds had that meeting, she never brought it up with me again. And then everyone else just started kind of going, ‘Well, you can go to the Gold Coast? You can go home. You can take a payout and go home or you can come with us to WA (where Senator Reynolds is based)’.

“And I asked them. I said, ‘Well if I got to the Gold Coast, (if we are in) opposition or we win, what happens then?’ They said ‘you won’t come back’.


“That was when I fully internalised that I didn’t have options. And that there was a choice here.”

https://www.news.com.au/national/po...e/news-story/822eb2881d612317ceaaefd6134a1e61


Seriously Don ... you seem to be missing a lot of vital information ... maybe you should look into it further before defending the govt. I am in no doubt they covered it up. Sure, they said the nice words and told her they'd support her .. they're politicians and trained to say what you want to hear ... but they left her in no doubt what would happen if she did.
 

DonDeeHippy

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Probably others would have come forward. Rapists of the serial kind don't stop at two.
BUT DDH... you have nothing but nasty comments to make... and no apparent reason for your continued rants.. I suspect you have a particular agenda here. Always have...

I note the MAN hasn't been named. Well, it is an allegation... wouldn't want that to ruin the poor mans life would we.? Hmm.?
Surely you should be happy, after all it is all just an allegation. Why are YOU so concerned..? friend of yours is HE.?
So you think if someone has a allegation against them, then it's ok to publicly shame them, why not go one future and put them in jail until the case is closed , just in case....

Please show me a nasty comment I've made.... or a rant...

This country is innocent until proven guilty .... If you don't like that take it up with the judicial system...


Instead of making this personal why and going after my motives, why not actually debate the case, your failure to do this is very telling....
Like Mothra you refuse to talk about the case instead just rant about me...
When your ready to discus the case, not me, let be know
 
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DonDeeHippy

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https://www.news.com.au/national/po...e/news-story/822eb2881d612317ceaaefd6134a1e61


Seriously Don ... you seem to be missing a lot of vital information ... maybe you should look into it further before defending the govt. I am in no doubt they covered it up. Sure, they said the nice words and told her they'd support her .. they're politicians and trained to say what you want to hear ... but they left her in no doubt what would happen if she did.
I think she brought up 3 very diferant issue's here.
1. The actual rape
2. A cover up
3. She was pressured to drop the case

ScoMO brought in another one.... Did he actually only find out about it this week....

As I repeatedly say if she was rape I hope the rapist goes to jail...
If it was covered up I hope those responsible get fired and whatever punishment is available to them
If a person or persons threatened her with her job to stop proceeding then they go to jail and held responsible for the 2nd accusation of rape...

So far none of these accusations have been backed by facts, when and if investigations happen I hope they get to the truth of what happened.

I personally think the week long media circus is great for accusations 2 and 3.
As far as the rape case , she has given her attacker a week long head start to prepare even before the police come knocking at his door...
Everything in that article are Higgens accusations, nothing has been verified by both parties.
If you want to see the actual facts of this case

 

DonDeeHippy

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Interestingly ScoMo is not backing down from his original position of not knowing.....
SO he must be telling the truth or very sure his staff will take the sword on this and then not go to the press...

The left wing very neutral Guardian is reporting this case well.....
 

DonDeeHippy

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Government asks sex discrimination commissioner for help as third allegation made against man accused of raping Brittany Higgins | Australian politics | The Guardian

Birmingham said it was also important to examine what people should do if they had been informed of serious allegations, but victims chose not to pursue a police complaint.

“This is one of the significant tension points as to at what point the rights of individuals in making their decisions are respected versus the responsibility of others to try to pursue actions if they are not being pursued or undertaken by the individual,” Birmingham said.

Wow this is opening a whole can of worms...

So if a woman is raped and doesn't want to pursue the matter for whatever reason does the government have the right to proceed anyway ????

Also if a alleged rapist is named,
what compensation would a false rape report given to the victim... Very interesting indeed.
 

DonDeeHippy

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Katy Gallagher

It [allegedly] happened in Senator Reynolds’s office.

She could have done more, she should have done more.

And I think she actually knows that.


Bahhh, she doesn't say what the minister should have done......
To bad Katy doesn't know what should have been done.....
That would be helpful......
 
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Squire

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Katy Gallagher

It [allegedly] happened in Senator Reynolds’s office.

She could have done more, she should have done more.

And I think she actually knows that.


Bahhh, she doesn't say what the minister should of done......
To bad Katy doesn't know what should of been done.....
That would be helpful......
Bad English twice "should of" = should have.

Should she have videoed the event and made heaps.
 

johnsmith

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Interestingly ScoMo is not backing down from his original position of not knowing.....
SO he must be telling the truth or very sure his staff will take the sword on this and then not go to the press...

or he's worrying about an election later this yearsmackhead
 

johnsmith

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So if a woman is raped and doesn't want to pursue the matter for whatever reason does the government have the right to proceed anyway ????
the govt. has a duty to all it's staff ... part of that duty includes making their staff aware of claims of sexual misconduct in the workplace. Failure to do so put other staff at risk that it might happen to them. If the victim doesn't want to proceed with charges thats her business and has nothing to do with the govt ensuring they provide a safe working environment for their staff.
 

johnsmith

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Also if a alleged rapist is named, what compensation would a false rape report given to the victim...
why? alleged rapists are named all the time. .. unless they're politicians. Guilt, or not, is determined in a court of law. Why do politicians and their staff get privileges not afforded to every other guy accused of wrongdoing?
 

Auggie

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The government should be setting an example by going after alleged sexual misconduct and rape. It's not good enough for our elected officials to just let it happen 'because the person doesn't want to press charges'.

Frankly, it's just a weasel way out of not doing anything.
 

DonDeeHippy

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The government should be setting an example by going after alleged sexual misconduct and rape. It's not good enough for our elected officials to just let it happen 'because the person doesn't want to press charges'.

Frankly, it's just a weasel way out of not doing anything.
Birmingham said it was also important to examine what people should do if they had been informed of serious allegations, but victims chose not to pursue a police complaint.

“This is one of the significant tension points as to at what point the rights of individuals in making their decisions are respected versus the responsibility of others to try to pursue actions if they are not being pursued or undertaken by the individual,” Birmingham said.

The government are saying the same thing
 

DonDeeHippy

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why? alleged rapists are named all the time. .. unless they're politicians. Guilt, or not, is determined in a court of law. Why do politicians and their staff get privileges not afforded to every other guy accused of wrongdoing?
those rules apply Australia wide, especially in the public sector, do you think if the rape accusation is false the accuse should go to jail and be made to pay damages...

Make it that if someone accuses someone of rape the matter will be settled in court even if the accuser withdraws..... That might be the way to go.....

Do you go one further if the police or a boss thinks there has been abuse it has to be investigated, no exceptions....

Does this mean if a rape victim refuses to cooperate with the investigation or trail they can be charged and be sent to jail ?
 
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