⮞ U.S. DESIGNATED SURVIVOR...........If the Unfathomable ever became Reality ⮜

DreamRyderX

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U.S. DESIGNATED SURVIVOR (Designated Successor)

Source: Wikipedia
In the United States, a designated survivor (or designated successor) is a named individual in the presidential line of succession, chosen to stay at an undisclosed secure location, away from events such as State of the Union addresses and Presidential inaugurations. The practice of designating a successor is intended to prevent a hypothetical decapitation of the government and to safeguard continuity in the office of the President in the event the President along with the Vice President and multiple other officials in the presidential line of succession die in a mass-casualty incident. The procedure originated in the 1950s during the Cold War with its risk of nuclear attack.

If such an event occurred, the surviving official highest in the line of succession as delineated in the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 would become President of the United States. Consequently, the individual named as a designated survivor must be eligible to serve as president.......continued



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Did anyone see the TV Series by the same name on Netflix?

What do you think if this really happened.....say on Inauguration Day.

Would President Trump, & the Right Wing get blamed if the newly inaugurated president, vice-president, & 98% of the Democ-RAT Congress in attendance ... plus tens of thousands of other 2021 Inauguration attendees were vaporized on National TV?

This Designated Survivor Scenario was created in Hollywood, but since the cold war the USA has had the "Designated Survivor" contingency plan in place just in case the Unfathomable ever became Reality.

See the trailer for the TV Show below, but what do you think would take place in America if it actually happened in real life?





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Auggie

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Would President Trump, & the Right Wing get blamed if the newly inaugurated president, vice-president, & 98% of the Democ-RAT Congress in attendance ... plus tens of thousands of other 2021 Inauguration attendees were vaporized on National TV?
What kind of a question is that?

You're only guilty of doing something if you do something. If a right-wing group was responsible for the attack, then they're responsible.
 

johnsmith

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Did anyone see the TV Series by the same name on Netflix?

No, but i did read a Tom Clancy novel where Jack Ryan (the same jack Ryan that starred in the movie by the same name, was also the lead character in Hunt for Red October and Clear and Present Danger) became president by default because he was the only designated survivor.purple bounce
 

greggerypeccary

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U.S. DESIGNATED SURVIVOR (Designated Successor)

Source: Wikipedia

Did anyone see the TV Series by the same name on Netflix?

What do you think if this really happened.....say on Inauguration Day.

Would President Trump, & the Right Wing get blamed if the newly inaugurated president, vice-president, & 98% of the Democ-RAT Congress in attendance ... plus tens of thousands of other 2021 Inauguration attendees were vaporized on National TV?

This Designated Survivor Scenario was created in Hollywood, but since the cold war the USA has had the "Designated Survivor" contingency plan in place just in case the Unfathomable ever became Reality.

See the trailer for the TV Show below, but what do you think would take place in America if it actually happened in real life?





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Yes, I watched the series. Not bad.

No matter what happens though, Trump wouldn't remain in the White House.

On January 20, at 12 noon, he ceases to be POTUS and there's absolutely nothing that can change that.
 

Auggie

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No, thank the American Founding Fathers......the Crafters of our Great U.S. Constitution.....God merely guided them, but
it was they that supplied the gift of Free Will to carve out the details.
Do you believe the Constitution to be divinely inspired?
 

DreamRyderX

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Do you believe the Constitution to be divinely inspired?
In all important matters, I firmly believe that the Good Lord will provide His Grace to inspire & assist the outcome. So, during the birth of our Glorious American Nation, when the American Patriots drove out, & defeated the cursed crown's tyranny, I firmly believe God guided them, & the Founding Fathers decided the particulars using His Grace, along with the Free Will He bestowed upon us all.
 
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Shellandshilo1956

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In all important matters, I firmly believe that the Good Lord will provide His Grace to inspire & assist the outcome. So, during the birth of our Glorious American Nation, when the American Patriots drove out, & defeated the cursed crown's tyranny, I firmly believe God guided them, & the Founding Fathers decided the particulars using His Grace, along with the Free Will He bestowed upon us all.

If God is responsible for giving us the gift of free will, then isn't He also responsible for how we have used it for the last 245 years? The only thing that our founding fathers did not want, was this new nation to become just another Monarchy. Ruled by kings and aristocrats. Their decisions were guided by history NOT by any divine intervention.
 

johnsmith

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In all important matters, I firmly believe that the Good Lord will provide His Grace to inspire & assist the outcome. So, during the birth of our Glorious American Nation, when the American Patriots drove out, & defeated the cursed crown's tyranny, I firmly believe God guided them, & the Founding Fathers decided the particulars using His Grace, along with the Free Will He bestowed upon us all.

so did he inspire and assist in the forming of the USSR? China? Afghanistan? Cuba? Brazil?and so on and so on
 

DreamRyderX

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so did he inspire and assist in the forming of the USSR? China? Afghanistan? Cuba? Brazil?and so on and so on
Like the familiar story goes, you can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

If God wished He could 'make' us all do anything He wanted us to do, but He wanted us all to have Free Will, therefore the ability to decide our own destinies for ourselves.

The Good Lord affects all of us with His Grace, but by giving us all Free Will He lets us all decide how we will take advantage of His Gift of Grace, so how all the Countries of the World accepts & utilizes His Grace & Inspiration, is completely up to them via their Free Will.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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If God wished He could 'make' us all do anything He wanted us to do, but He wanted us all to have Free Will, therefore the ability to decide our own destinies for ourselves.
This is the same presuppositional religious self-contradicting paradox, that only proves that man has no need for God. Since God has given man his "free-will", He can no longer play any role in man's life of self-determination. Right? Therefore, His existence(even if real), is totally irrelevant to the human condition in general. If the mailman leaves you a million dollar check in your mailbox, do you then start worshipping the Aussie Post?

Second problem. If God gave all humans this gift that was never asked for since "The Fall", then why did he give us sin, as punishment for using His gift?

"The two most important days in your life is the day you are born and the day you find out why." – Mark Twain.

It is our genes that determine our actions, NOT God or even our illusion of "free will".
 
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Auggie

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In all important matters, I firmly believe that the Good Lord will provide His Grace to inspire & assist the outcome. So, during the birth of our Glorious American Nation, when the American Patriots drove out, & defeated the cursed crown's tyranny, I firmly believe God guided them, & the Founding Fathers decided the particulars using His Grace, along with the Free Will He bestowed upon us all.
See, one thing I realized only later on in my life was that the American Revolution essentially gave Britain an out in term of the slavery question - it meant that they didn't have to have put up with or fight over slavery. This would've tainted their reputation.
 

DreamRyderX

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See, one thing I realized only later on in my life was that the American Revolution essentially gave Britain an out in term of the slavery question - it meant that they didn't have to have put up with or fight over slavery. This would've tainted their reputation.
Seriously........England's Reputation!!?? What Reputation!?


Paaahhhhlease!!......England profited far, far, more from their Institutionalized Slave Trade than any country in the entire World!!!
 
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Auggie

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Seriously........England's Reputation!!?? What Reputation!?


Paaahhhhlease!!......England profited far, far, more from their Institutionalized Slave Trade than any country in the entire World!!!
You mean up until 1836 when they outlawed slavery by an Act of Parliament?

It took America a civil war to abolish slavery.

The comparison is almost laughable.
 

DreamRyderX

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You mean up until 1836 when they outlawed slavery by an Act of Parliament?

It took America a civil war to abolish slavery.

The comparison is almost laughable.
Is this laughable?
-- Read on....

The Brits showed their so called "class" by forcing the decedents of slaves, & all British taxpayers, to pay for their enslaved ancestors 'purchased' freedom all the way 'till 2015 while bragging about the so called Great "Act of Parliament", & how they stopped slavery, when they should have told everyone how they actually bought off the already mega rich slave owners, making them even richer off of the slavery that should have ended with the Sham of 1807, & putting future generations of Brits in debt until recently with their deceitful 1833's scam.....the so called Great "Act of Parliament" !!




Source: THE BBC
If we hear at all about Britain’s involvement in slavery, there’s often a slight whiff of self-congratulation – for abolishing it in 1833, 32 years ahead of the US, where the legacy of slavery is still more of an open wound. Less well known, however, is the enormous cost of this decision for the taxpayer – the British government spent £20 million, a staggering 40% of its budget in 1833, to buy freedom for slaves. That’s equivalent to approximately £20bn today, making it one of the biggest ever government bailouts. The cost was so high, the vast loans the government took out to fund it were only just paid off in 2015.........continued(link)
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johnsmith

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Is this laughable?
-- Read on....

The Brits showed their so called "class" by forcing the decedents of slaves, & all British taxpayers, to pay for their enslaved ancestors 'purchased' freedom all the way 'till 2015 while bragging about the so called Great "Act of Parliament", & how they stopped slavery, when they should have told everyone how they actually bought off the already mega rich slave owners, making them even richer off of the slavery that should have ended with the Sham of 1807, & putting future generations of Brits in debt until recently with their deceitful 1833's scam.....the so called Great "Act of Parliament" !!



Source: THE BBC

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getting desperate there with that one aren't you Dream
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Is this laughable?
-- Read on....

The Brits showed their so called "class" by forcing the decedents of slaves, & all British taxpayers, to pay for their enslaved ancestors 'purchased' freedom all the way 'till 2015 while bragging about the so called Great "Act of Parliament", & how they stopped slavery, when they should have told everyone how they actually bought off the already mega rich slave owners, making them even richer off of the slavery that should have ended with the Sham of 1807, & putting future generations of Brits in debt until recently with their deceitful 1833's scam.....the so called Great "Act of Parliament" !!



Source: THE BBC

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So did Britain outlaw slavery or not in 1836? I don't care if it was paid for, fought for, or legislated for. Did the Brits outlaw slavery in 1836, and the US in 1865, or not?
 

DreamRyderX

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So did Britain outlaw slavery or not in 1836?.......

Source: The Guardian
...........The decision to emancipate slaves by treating them like property, and not like persons, was no mere theoretical exercise. Rather than putting a sudden end to their suffering, the process of emancipation marked a new phase of British atrocities and the terrorisation of blacks.

The emancipation process was minutely orchestrated by government bureaucrats. In September 1835, less than a month after the government received its loan, slave owners began their feeding frenzy as they obtained compensation cheques at the National Debt Office. Payment amounts were determined based on application forms that asked claimants to itemise the number and kinds of enslaved people in their possession, and to provide certificates from the slave registrar. There were some 47,000 recipients of compensation in total.

In addition to money, slave owners received another form of compensation: the guaranteed free labour of blacks on plantations for a period of years after emancipation. The enslaved were thus forced to pay reverse reparations to their oppressors. At the stroke of midnight on 1 August 1834, the enslaved were freed from the legal category of slavery – and instantly plunged into a new institution, called “apprenticeship”. The arrangement was initially to last for 12 years, but was ultimately shortened to four. During this period of apprenticeship, Britain declared it would teach blacks how to use their freedom responsibly, and would train them out of their natural state of savagery. But this training involved continued unpaid labour for the same masters on the very same plantations on which they had worked the day before.

In some ways, the “apprenticeship” years were arguably even more brutal than what had preceded them. With the Slavery Abolition Act, the duty to punish former slaves now shifted from individual slave owners to officers of the state. A state-funded, 100-person corps of police, jailers and enforcers was hired in Britain and sent to the plantation colonies. They were called the “stipendiary magistrates”. If apprentices were too slow in drawing water, or in cutting cane, or in washing linens, or if they took Saturdays off, their masters could have them punished by these magistrates.

Punishments were doled out according to a standardised formula, and often involved the most “modern” punishment device of those times: the treadmill. This torture device, which was supposed to inculcate a work ethic, was a huge turning wheel with thick, splintering wooden slats. Apprentices accused of laziness – what slave owners called the “negro disease” – were hung by their hands from a plank and forced to “dance” the treadmill barefoot, often for hours. If they fell or lost their step, they would be battered on their chest, feet and shins by the wooden planks. The punishment was often combined with whippings. The treadmill was used more during the apprenticeship period than it ever was under slavery, precisely because it was said to be a scientific, measurable and modern form of disciplinary re-education, in line with bureaucratic oversight. One apprentice, James Williams, in an account of his life published in 1837, recalled he was punished much more after 1834 than before. Indeed, it is likely that slave-owners sweated their labour under apprenticeship, in order to squeeze out the last ounces of unpaid labour before full emancipation finally came in 1838.
Technically, & only technically, yes Britain outlawed Slavery at the stroke of midnight on 1 August 1834, & the enslaved were freed from the "legal category of slavery" – and instantly plunged into a new institution, called “apprenticeship”.

What the so called ex-slaves had to endure, sanctioned by the 1834 British Law, to many was far worse than slavery ever was.

So, your typed question, as relating to Britain, though technically valid, was followed by nothing less than what many described as merely an extension of slavery by the British, technically called “apprenticeship”, sanctioned by the British Government, which legally flourished until 1838.

The 13th Amendment to the US Constitution, ratified by the American People in 1865, effectively freed all slaves within the United States. It forever abolished slavery as an institution in all the U.S. States & territories. In addition to banning slavery, the 13th Amendment outlawed the practice of involuntary servitude.


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